Here we go again - Bush Cronyism

[carpro]

Originally posted by LadyEagle:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46267

Little off topic, don't you think?

 

[carpro]

Originally posted by church mouse guy:
This is a non-starter. We have had 5 years of this. No one has ever been able to name another company that could have done a better job or that even wanted some of those contracts.

Now, CMG, that just absolutely has to be overlooked or the fun stops.

 

[OCC]

Originally posted by church mouse guy:
This is a non-starter. We have had 5 years of this. No one has ever been able to name another company that could have done a better job or that even wanted some of those contracts. Working for Halliburton is very dangerous in Iraq. It is just more Bush Bashing by the Bashing Baptists of the Baptist Board.

Can you prove that? I am willing to listen but I want proof.

 

[LadyEagle]

Originally posted by carpro:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by LadyEagle:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46267

Little off topic, don't you think? </font>[/QUOTE]Not really, since Halliburton has been doing business with Iran for years.

 

[carpro]

Maybe so. It just seems this thread went from a Bush cronyism discussion the a bash Halliburton party.

 

[LadyEagle]

Okay, I'll see what else about Bush cronyism I can dig up, LOL.

 

[carpro]

Originally posted by LadyEagle:
Okay, I'll see what else about Bush cronyism I can dig up, LOL.

Shouldn't be a problem, since it's so rampant.

It's exceptional , too. No other president I can remember could be accused of "cronyism".

 

[OldRegular]

Originally posted by carpro:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by LadyEagle:
Okay, I'll see what else about Bush cronyism I can dig up, LOL.

Shouldn't be a problem, since it's so rampant.

It's exceptional , too. No other president I can remember could be accused of "cronyism". </font>[/QUOTE]Bush is an exceptionally good president. That is what galls the liberal/left so much.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Views of W sure can vary. OR thinks he is exceptionally good, I believe he is the worst president in my lifetime, and perhaps in the history of the republic. Historians will not view him as anything but a disaster, and the repurcussions of his administration will cause untold harm for decades to come.

 

[Johnv]

Originally posted by Magnetic Poles:
Views of W sure can vary. OR thinks he is exceptionally good, I believe he is the worst president in my lifetime, and perhaps in the history of the republic.

You've pretty much summed up the total of all views of just about every president during his tenure.

It's part of our sinful nature to critique and criticize politicians, especially while they're doing the job elected to do. It's a form of armchair quarterbacking. I know a lot of people do it, including myself, but it's still, imo, sinful behavior. That is why I've made a commitment to always take a step back regarding politics. I never, or at least, rarely give my total $.02 about politicians as a whole. I do critique specifics, but in the end, time and history alone decide the quality of presidents. And, thankfully, while the present always identifies failures over accomplishments, time tends to identify accomplishments over failures.

 

[OldRegular]

Originally posted by Magnetic Poles:
I know the yellow dog Bushies will say this is ethical, but for the rest of us, imagine this scenario. Let's say you are President. First you break Iraq and award contracts to your buddies. Now you take advantage of a natural disaster to line the pockets of your pals with "the people's money". I guess when Bush talked about "the people's money" we forgot to ask "which people" he thought it belonged to!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9282533/

EXCERPTED:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Firms with Bush ties snag Katrina deals

White House connections attract renewed attention from watchdog groups

Updated: 4:04 p.m. ET Sept. 10, 2005

Companies with ties to the Bush White House and the former head of FEMA are clinching some of the administration's first disaster relief and reconstruction contracts in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

At least two major corporate clients of lobbyist Joe Allbaugh, President George W. Bush's former campaign manager and a former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, have already been tapped to start recovery work along the battered Gulf Coast.

One is Shaw Group Inc. and the other is Halliburton Co. subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root. Vice President Dick Cheney is a former head of Halliburton.

</font>[/QUOTE]The CEO of Shaw Group Inc. is chairman of the democrat party in Louisana!

 

[OldRegular]

Originally posted by Magnetic Poles:
Views of W sure can vary. OR thinks he is exceptionally good, I believe he is the worst president in my lifetime, and perhaps in the history of the republic. Historians will not view him as anything but a disaster, and the repurcussions of his administration will cause untold harm for decades to come.

Even at your tender age the altitude is getting to you!

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Thanks for the "tender age" remark OR! Makes me feel young again!

 

[carpro]

Originally posted by OldRegular:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Magnetic Poles:
I know the yellow dog Bushies will say this is ethical, but for the rest of us, imagine this scenario. Let's say you are President. First you break Iraq and award contracts to your buddies. Now you take advantage of a natural disaster to line the pockets of your pals with "the people's money". I guess when Bush talked about "the people's money" we forgot to ask "which people" he thought it belonged to!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9282533/

EXCERPTED:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Firms with Bush ties snag Katrina deals

White House connections attract renewed attention from watchdog groups

Updated: 4:04 p.m. ET Sept. 10, 2005

Companies with ties to the Bush White House and the former head of FEMA are clinching some of the administration's first disaster relief and reconstruction contracts in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

At least two major corporate clients of lobbyist Joe Allbaugh, President George W. Bush's former campaign manager and a former head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, have already been tapped to start recovery work along the battered Gulf Coast.

One is Shaw Group Inc. and the other is Halliburton Co. subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root. Vice President Dick Cheney is a former head of Halliburton.

</font>[/QUOTE]The CEO of Shaw Group Inc. is chairman of the democrat party in Louisana! </font>[/QUOTE]

Kinda gums up that subject, don't it?

 

[bapmom]

wait a minute.....Im not sure if anyone has said this yet, I tried to look through the four pages but might have missed it....but do you know what Haliburton does?

What is this company's business?

They go into devastated areas and rebuild, on a massive scale.

Almost no other company in the world specializes in this. No one else does what Haliburton does.

So of COURSE they are going to get the bid for the rebuilding of Iraq, and of COURSE they are going to be a part of rebuilding along the Gulf Coast!

 

[carpro]

It is frequently referred to as the only company able to do the job.

Once in a while someone asserts that that is not so, but I've never seen any of them name another company.

 

[LadyEagle]

Originally posted by bapmom:
wait a minute.....Im not sure if anyone has said this yet, I tried to look through the four pages but might have missed it....but do you know what Haliburton does?

What is this company's business?

They go into devastated areas and rebuild, on a massive scale.

Almost no other company in the world specializes in this. No one else does what Haliburton does.

So of COURSE they are going to get the bid for the rebuilding of Iraq, and of COURSE they are going to be a part of rebuilding along the Gulf Coast!

Top Competitors

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http://www.hoovers.com/halliburton-company/--ID__10697--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml

 

[KenH]

I think you need a more precise breakdown, LE. I just don't see competitors listed such as IBM, Sun Microsystems, and Hewlett-Packard rebuilding Iraq or New Orleans.

 

[LadyEagle]

Well, that's what was posted at the site.

Anyway, here's the Scoop on Bechtel:

Whether the job is raising an entire city or razing a nuclear power plant, you can bet the Bechtel Group will be there to bid on the business. The firm is the US's #1 contractor (ahead of Fluor). The engineering, construction, and project management firm operates worldwide and has participated in such notable projects as the construction of Hoover Dam and the cleanup of the Chernobyl nuclear plant. Subsidiary Bechtel Enterprises invests in infrastructure projects and arranges financing for its clients. The group is in its fourth generation of leadership by the Bechtel family, with chairman and CEO Riley Bechtel at the helm. The billionaire Bechtel family owns a controlling stake in the firm.

But anyway, Bechtel also has ties to the Bush administration AND the bin Laden family. Google it. You'll find out.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Originally posted by bapmom:
wait a minute.....Im not sure if anyone has said this yet, I tried to look through the four pages but might have missed it....but do you know what Haliburton does?

What is this company's business?

They go into devastated areas and rebuild, on a massive scale.

Almost no other company in the world specializes in this. No one else does what Haliburton does.

So of COURSE they are going to get the bid for the rebuilding of Iraq, and of COURSE they are going to be a part of rebuilding along the Gulf Coast!

That's the problem...it was done without bidding.