High court turns away 'indoctrination' case

[Revmitchell]

The U.S. Supreme Court has refused to rule in a case in which a Massachusetts man was jailed for trying to protect his child from exposure to the homosexual lifestyle in elementary school.



WorldNetDaily reports leaders at Estabrook Elementary School in Lexington were teaching homosexuality to young children and refusing to let Christian parents opt out of the indoctrination. David Parker challenged the school's agenda, but remains disappointed the court would not take the case and reverse negative lower-court rulings..........

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[KenH]

The story says, "District Judge Mark Wolf said undermining Christian beliefs and teaching homosexuality is necessary to prepare children for citizenship in America."

The above is an interpretation, not a quote. I think this is what he actually said:

"The constitutional right of parents to raise their children does not include the right to restrict what a public school may teach their children," Wolf unambiguously wrote in dismissing a suit by two Lexington couples who objected to lessons the local elementary school was teaching their children. "Under the Constitution public schools are entitled to teach anything that is reasonably related to the goals of preparing students to become engaged and productive citizens in our democracy."

- www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/03/04/a_call_for_separation_of_school_and_state/

I think that Christians should place their children in Christian schools whenever practicable.

 

[targus]

"Under the Constitution public schools are entitled to teach anything that is reasonably related to the goals of preparing students to become engaged and productive citizens in our democracy."

Ken, do you agree that teaching homosexuality is "reasonably related to the goals of preparing students to become engaged and productive citizens in our democracy"?

 

[Crabtownboy]

My guess is the high court turned the case down as the Constitution does not comment on homosexuality or what public schools can and cannot teach. So, unless you have activist judges they had to turn the case down.

 

[KenH]

Ken, do you agree that teaching homosexuality is "reasonably related to the goals of preparing students to become engaged and productive citizens in our democracy"?

Absolutely not.

 

[Jon-Marc]

Once again being "politically correct" and not wanting to offend homosexuals wins out over Christian beliefs and morality. Refusing to hear the case tells the school they are right and leaves the father with no leg to stand on in his refusal to allow his child to be indoctrinated with this wickedness.

If teaching children immorality is "reasonably related to the goals of preparing students to become engaged and productive citizens in our democracy", then perhaps we need to look for a country that doesn't insist on teaching the children immorality and keeping parents from deciding if they want that filth taught to their children.

Also, the few who are left who still believe that homosexuality is immoral and haven't bought into the "alternate lifestyle" concept would stand up and say "We don't want our children taught this immoral lifestyle, perhaps that father would be more than one person standing alone. I would be more than happy to stand with him on that, but that makes only two voices. Where are all the people who CLAIM to be Christians? If this is a Christian nation as some foolishly believe, then why is all this wickedness being allowed and forced on unwilling people?

 

[Jon-Marc]

I registered and tried to log in to comment, and it wouldn't let me log in.

 

[ReformedBaptist]

By all means parents, homeschool your kids.

 

[Andy T.]

"The constitutional right of parents to raise their children does not include the right to restrict what a public school may teach their children," Wolf unambiguously wrote in dismissing a suit by two Lexington couples who objected to lessons the local elementary school was teaching their children. "Under the Constitution public schools are entitled to teach anything that is reasonably related to the goals of preparing students to become engaged and productive citizens in our democracy."

KenH, you do realize that Obama will appoint more judges like this one? Your vote for Obama will help perpetuate this nonsense. Thanks, KenH.

 

[Andy T.]

By all means parents, homeschool your kids.

Many on the Left (and probably many judges that Obama will appoint) despise homeschooling and despise Christian homeschooling, in particular. Thank you, professing Christians by voting for Obama so that our freedoms will continue to erode.

 

[Revmitchell]

The story says, "District Judge Mark Wolf said undermining Christian beliefs and teaching homosexuality is necessary to prepare children for citizenship in America."

The above is an interpretation, not a quote. I think this is what he actually said:

"The constitutional right of parents to raise their children does not include the right to restrict what a public school may teach their children," Wolf unambiguously wrote in dismissing a suit by two Lexington couples who objected to lessons the local elementary school was teaching their children. "Under the Constitution public schools are entitled to teach anything that is reasonably related to the goals of preparing students to become engaged and productive citizens in our democracy."

- www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2007/03/04/a_call_for_separation_of_school_and_state/

I think that Christians should place their children in Christian schools whenever practicable.

There is no disparity between those two statements. Both ideas are just as evil.

 

[KenH]

KenH, you do realize that Obama will appoint more judges like this one?

Yes, and that does cause me concern about voting for Senator Obama. However, as you know, I also have concerns about voting for Senator McCain.

Sometimes I wish I could convince myself to stop voting.

 

[dragonfly]

Ken, do you agree that teaching homosexuality is "reasonably related to the goals of preparing students to become engaged and productive citizens in our democracy"?

I believe the current public school system is not concerned with anything except preparing children to fit into a Christ-less one-world system. Anything that detracts from this goal will not be tolerate. Everything the Bible condemns, it seems, is encouraged while anything to do with Christianity is either strictly forbidden or is laughed to scorn.

 

[dragonfly]

Yes, and that does cause me concern about voting for Senator Obama. However, as you know, I also have concerns about voting for Senator McCain.

Sometimes I wish I could convince myself to stop voting.

I understand your frustration with the Bush administration, but I hope you are not doing what I almost did. I allowed my dislike with Bush to first, cloud my judgment concerning anything good done over the past eight years, and second, cause me to support and almost vote for someone who sounds refreshing, yet is almost diametrical opposed to the values taught in the Word of God.

I believe when a Christian Obama supporter really looks at the teachings of Christ, and then with the direction the democrats want to take this country, they will find that they are backing the wrong man and the wrong party!

 

[KenH]

Well, dragonfly, when I go into the voting booth and the curtain is drawn the only ones seeing how I vote when the time comes to actually make a choice will be God and me.

I certainly understand, and sympathize with, why you won't vote for Senator Obama.

And for personal reasons I am giving up discussing partisan politics on this board. With the way my life looks to be heading(in what I believe will be a very good direction) I won't have time to mess with discussing politics on the Internet anyway(which is a good thing ).

:godisgood:

 

[YOUTUBECANBESAVED]

Sounds like Good news! you deserve it brother

Well, dragonfly, when I go into the voting booth and the curtain is drawn the only ones seeing how I vote when the time comes to actually make a choice will be God and me.

I certainly understand, and sympathize with, why you won't vote for Senator Obama.

And for personal reasons I am giving up discussing partisan politics on this board. With the way my life looks to be heading(in what I believe will be a very good direction) I won't have time to mess with discussing politics on the Internet anyway(which is a good thing ).

:godisgood:

After all the abuse you have taken KenH, you deserve blessing you have been an inspiration to us all.

I respect you feelings dragonfly, I think people recoil from the bashing they take if you are not in lock step with them and their little quips and smarmy responses if you dare disagree with them, these are the people that voted for Bush twice and will not admit they were wrong in honest appraisal. Obama is going to be a good surprise even for these people he will actually reach out and compromise and build consensus, look for at least 1/4 of his administration to be republican and independents.

President Obama will definitely need our prayers and not hope of violence against him.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Why do you bring up the word "violence" ?

 

[Andy T.]

Yes, and that does cause me concern about voting for Senator Obama.

I thought you said that you trusted Obama? I thought you even sent him money? Your previous words and actions belie your statement here. I doubt that you care all that much about judicial appointments; otherwise you wouldn't be voting for Obama (much less sending him money) who will likely tear down more of our freedoms and perpetuate the evil of abortion.

 

[just-want-peace]

After all the abuse you have taken KenH, you deserve blessing you have been an inspiration to us all.

I respect you feelings dragonfly, I think people recoil from the bashing they take if you are not in lock step with them and their little quips and smarmy responses if you dare disagree with them, these are the people that voted for Bush twice and will not admit they were wrong in honest appraisal. Obama is going to be a good surprise even for these people he will actually reach out and compromise and build consensus, look for at least 1/4 of his administration to be republican and independents.

President Obama will definitely need our prayers and not hope of violence against him.

emphasis mine

I find it hard to believe that you make such an assinine statement as the above highlighted portion.

I have seen numerous posts on this board that have critically questioned the present administration after acknowledging voting for same. I have done so a few times myself.

All such blatant lies like this do is make you look totally irrational in your devotion to the left.

In fact, to the best of my memory as of now, the only, repeat ONLY, praise foisted upon Bush by the conservative posters are his tax cuts and the war on terror. Basically everything else has been condemned by conservatives.

Dragonfly is correct; get out of your defense mode and look at the facts, all of them, before your pride and vote condemns this country to 3rd world status!

Oh, incidentally, this in no way is a praise for the McCain ticket either. It's just that it's a better choice than the Obama ticket.

 

[Andy T.]

President Obama will definitely need our prayers and not hope of violence against him.

The first prayer I will offer up for Obama after he is inaugurated will be for him to trust the true Lord Jesus Christ (not the false one of his own making and that of Liberation Theology's) alone for his salvation, and that he repent of his wicked views on sundry issues, like allowing a born alive baby to be left alone to die, in order to affirm the "sacred choice" to have her killed in the first place.