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Hillary Clinton Is Now The Most Religious Candidate Running For President.

Aaron

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He's inconsistent in many areas. For example, he says anyone who carries a firearm has no faith, that we should let God handle it.
Yes, let God handle the violent, but not microbes.

Thank God he (or she) hasn't said anything about Purgatory . . . a banning would come down faster than Bill Clinton's pants. But constantly and consistently imply the unborn are not living, and as long as you share PM's with the administrators you're safe.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Perspective, Zaac. Our Lord's Law and Society's Law are not the same thing, though much of the latter coincides with the former. Break His Law, answer to Him. Break societal law, answer to Society.

Break His Laws & you go to Hell for Eternity
 

Jordan Kurecki

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Rolfe I believe you're speaking from the secular viewpoint when you speak to the innocence and guilt. From the Biblical perspective, if we are to speak to the conceived child in the womb being a person, then in accordance with God's word, that child either is a child and part of the ALL who have fallen short and sinned, or it isn't part of the ALL and innocent and not a child.

I don't think you've ever physically murdered anyone either. But in accordance with God's word, if you've broken one command, you're guilty of breaking them all.

So from a BIBLICAL perspective, how does the Christian RIGHTEOUSLY judge that the murderer guilty of breaking the same law that God's word says we're all guilty of breaking is due capital punishment while we go free?

This is why I'll reiterate as long as God allows that because of the finished work of Jesus Christ on The Cross, no Christian should be advocating any punishment for breaking God's law or man's laws that he is not willing to accept for his own breaking of God's law.

If we're gonna be pro-life, then let's fully be pro-life.
So if we are going to follow your logical form, because we are all sinners in God's eyes, than the government also shouldn't punish those who rape or steal?

after all, according to you who are we to righteously judge a punishment for the sins of others?
Please see that your line of reasoning is not logical, Scripture plainly teaches that the government bears the sword to punish evil doers and that's found in the book of Romans, a New testament book.
 

Zaac

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So if we are going to follow your logical form, because we are all sinners in God's eyes, than the government also shouldn't punish those who rape or steal?

That's YOUR logical form. It does not align with anything that I said. In accordance with the finished work of Christ on the Cross, my POV is that no CHRISTIAN should be advocating the death of another for anything. As Christ showed us mercy when we were each worthy of death and hell, so too should we advocate mercy instead of death.

What I said CHRISTIANS should advocate has NOTHING to do with what the secular government advocates or punishes for.

I spoke to what I believe the CHRISTIAN position should be in lieu of The Cross.

after all, according to you who are we to righteously judge a punishment for the sins of others?

Nope. That's according to Scripture.

Please see that your line of reasoning is not logical,

I wasn't shooting for logical. What I said aligns with Scripture. What YOU THOUGHT I said does not.

Scripture plainly teaches that the government bears the sword to punish evil doers and that's found in the book of Romans, a New testament book.

Umm, I didn't say otherwise about what the government "can" do. That same government makes it legal for babies' skulls to be cracked and them vacuumed out their mother's wombs.

I spoke to what Scripture points to should be the position of CHRISTIANS when it comes to capital punishment. As such, in accordance again with the mercy that Christ showed us when we were deserving of death, the position of the Christian should be to NOT advocate for anybody's death, but in it's place, life and the same mercy Christ showed us.

YOUR position is only logical if you think you're less deserving of death than the next sinner.

Some of yall need to stop this pretense that you're pro- life while you're advocating for the taking of a life.
 

Yeshua1

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During a town hall campaign event in Iowa this past January, a woman stood and asked Hillary Clinton an unusually blunt question about faith. The woman, a high school guidance counselor, said she identifies as both a Democrat and a Catholic Christian, but expressed frustration about having to defend her support for Clinton to conservative friends who insist that progressivism and Christianity are incompatible. How, she asked, does Clinton — a self-identified Methodist Christian who also happens to be one of America’s most famous Democrats — grapple with the same question, and how does her faith in things such as the Ten Commandments square with her left-leaning politics?

Thank you for asking that. I am a person of faith. I am a Christian. I am a Methodist,” Clinton responded. “My study of the Bible … has led me to believe the most important commandment is to love the Lord with all your might and to love your neighbor as yourself, and that is what I think we are commanded by Christ to do. And there is so much more in the Bible about taking care of the poor, visiting the prisoners, taking in the stranger, creating opportunities for others to be lifted up … I think there are many different ways of exercising your faith.”

“I do believe that in many areas judgment should be left to God, that being more open, tolerant and respectful is part of what makes me humble about my faith,” she added. “I am in awe of people who truly turn the other cheek all the time, who can go t
hat extra mile that we are called to go, who keep finding ways to forgive and move on.”

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/05/06/3775910/hillary-clinton-faith-profile/
I think that sje os probably religious in the same sense as president Obama has shown himself to be, but the truth is still that neither of them by their deeds and actions have shown us fruit of knowing jesus in a real saving sense!
 

Crabtownboy

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I think that sje os probably religious in the same sense as president Obama has shown himself to be, but the truth is still that neither of them by their deeds and actions have shown us fruit of knowing jesus in a real saving sense!

Well, I'll leave the state of a person's salvation up to God. Not for me to judge that. Right?
 
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