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Hillary Clinton our enemy

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Bunyon

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How can some of you Christians express such support for a senator who is on record along with her party as wanting unrestrained abortion. And will fight for unrestrained abortion. If you vote for such a person, dosen't that put blood on your hand also?
Her husbands administration actually allowed federal dollars to go overseas to pay for the whole world to have aboritons.

And that is not to mention her support of homosexual marriage and a whole host of other unbiblical stances.
 
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NaasPreacher (C4K)

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Originally posted by Bunyon:
How can some of you Christians express such support for a senator who is on record along with her party as wanting unrestrained abortion. And will fight for unrestrained abortion. If you vote for such a person, dosen't that put blood on your hand also?
Her husbands administration actually allowed federal dollars to go overseas to pay for the whole world to have aboritons.

And that is not to mention her support of homosexual marriage and a whole host of other unbiblical stances.
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How many have supported her?
 
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Bunyon

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---"How many have supported her"

I'm not sure what you are asking me. But a few said they had voted for her. I read a couple of post on this thread where the folks said they voted for her. How can a Christian vote for her if she is on record wanting unrestricted abortion, and will try to spread it abroad with taxpayer money?
 
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KenH

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Originally posted by Bunyon:
How can a Christian vote for her if she is on record wanting unrestricted abortion, and will try to spread it abroad with taxpayer money?
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I would never vote for Senator Clinton, but abortion is not the only issue on which to base one's vote. There are tons of other issues to consider when voting.
 
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Bunyon

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" would never vote for Senator Clinton, but abortion is not the only issue on which to base one's vote. There are tons of other issues to consider when voting."

Thats true, but can you vote for someone who will grease the wheels of murder and allow it to be taxpayer funded here and abroad. If you knowingly vote for such a person, dosn't that make you responsible? There are times when we have to vote for the least of two evils, but can a christian ignore this issue. If it is murder is it not a NO VOTE issue.
 
KenH

KenH

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Originally posted by Bunyon:
doesn't that make you responsible?
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No. The people responsible for an abortion are the doctor and those who assist him in performing it and the woman who consents to having it performed.
 
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Bunyon

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---"No. The people responsible for an abortion are the doctor and those who assist him in performing it and the woman who consents to having it performed."

I have a buddest college who wont kill a bug at work. But he eats meat. So I asked him about it. He said he did not kill the animale so he was not guilty. Seems like a stretch to me.

We are the government "of the people, for the people, and by the people" If you knowingly vote and put such a person in power, I can't see how you can absolve yourself of responsibilty. Even if you think you will benefit in your job or gas prices or other economic areas.
 
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Jim1999

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It is your opinion that it is murder. Not every Christian agrees. I would rather see safe abortions than backyard butchery, which happened beforehand, and where was your voice when that was going on?

Cheers,

Jim

Abortion if necessary, but not necessarily abortion.
 
KenH

KenH

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Originally posted by Bunyon:
I can't see how you can absolve yourself of responsibilty.
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I understand your viewpoint and respect it. I just don't share it.
 
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Bunyon

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---"I understand your viewpoint and respect it. I just don't share it."

You don't have to share it. Just think about it.

----"It is your opinion that it is murder. Not every Christian agrees. I would rather see safe abortions than backyard butchery, which happened beforehand, and where was your voice when that was going on?"

Well Jim, I gonna floor you with this one. I was born and put up for adoption in a clinic that was known to do abortions in 1965. I did not have a voice then, but I do now thanks to my mother's discision to have me or at least to the inconvinience of haveing an abortion in 65. I guess it could have went etiher way in 1965. But I assume you would have rolled out the red carpet and insured tha she had a nice clean abortion clinic to go to. Thanks pal, with friends like you, who needs enemies!
 
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Jim1999

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Obviously you have difficulty reading....I added:

Abortion if necessary, but not necessarily abortion. Abortion is not to be the answer, but there are times when it is medically needed to protect life.

At any rate, it becomes a one issue campaign against all politicians because they believe in women's rights to choice. It comes up first every time...get's tiresome, to be honest.

Cheers,

Jim
 
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Bunyon

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----"I have thought about the subject a lot."

I know you have kenH. I just meant think about my particular posisition for a time.
 
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Bunyon

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---"Obviously you have difficulty reading....I added:"

I read just fine, Jim. By your reasoning we have gone from a few dirty abortions in back allies, to doing seveal millions per year. And we still have deaths, that aren't reported, because Clinics are not regulated, at all. Does it make since that a few women are saved from back alley abortions gone bad, by allowing for the death of Millions of babies in legal clinics.

I am pretty sure if I were borne today, with planned parenthood and govenment fundng, and legal clinics, I would not be here. That is the stark reality of your reasoning.
 
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fromtheright

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KenH,

[A]bortion is not the only issue on which to base one's vote. There are tons of other issues to consider when voting.

You have a valid point but one thing that needs to be remembered by strict constructionist opponents of single-issue voting is that Roe v. Wade is bad law and is butchery of the Constitution, butchery done not in a back alley but by our Nine Masters. Though I don't consider myself a single issue voter, a candidate's stand on Roe is important to me. I don't want to criminalize abortion throughout the country, I simple want to returnto the status quo ante Roe.


Bunyon,

I thank God you are here, not just on this earth, though I am thankful for that too, but also to serve as a reminder to those who believe in the moral superiority of "choice" as a value that there are indeed higher values. God bless your presence and your voice, Bunyon.
 
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Bunyon

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Thank you, from the right. I am glad I am here to.

And good point. Roe v Wade is not a law per sae, but a ruling by an errent supreme court that had to bend the 4th amendment to make it happen. In effect they made it impossable to make it illegal. But Hilery, does not want it available in extreme circumstances but completely unrestricted, and even exported to other counties.
 
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