Internet Theologian
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Agreed!
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Hiring a youth pastor
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If BW would apologize for all her attacks on me that would be one thing but I am not holding my breath.
Internet Theologian
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Hoping for reconciliation. Take her off ignore and contact her if you will. You want it, initiate it. You're a man, go for it.
BW read my post and is well aware of her attacks. She can apologize but I bet that she won't.
In other words you can't quote an attack by me. That's OK I forgive you for all the attacks, rabbit's and innuendo you have thrown at me since I've been on here.
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Also to note that Jordan has called BW out for her attacks once.
Internet Theologian
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Let bygones be bygones. We can all get along on here, and need to practice forgiveness in the manner that Christ has forgiven even our own selves.
If I'm mistaken, it'd be great if John made this clear, so I could apologize.
By the way, what things exactly are you referring to being posted? Things in this thread? Things in a past thread, concerning your disagreements with evangelist6589 past postings, or current things posted? I'm trying to find out what exactly the disagreement is here.
Then there is this caveat: If the person were naming names, the exact church, pastor's name et al and slandering these on a forum that may be a different thing. But this is not that.
In all due respect I think much ado is being made out of not much. It appears for all practical purposes that to 'pile on' evangelist6589 is a sport to some.
Not everyone agrees with all things taught in their church. It's normal. I belonged to a church that preached that no matter how you live, if you prayed a prayer sincerely you're going to heaven. I suppose I should be lambasted over such a thing, bringing it up on a forum and all, because I vehemently disagree with that error.
Things in this thread only; but influenced by past postings. And since he makes the same descriptions, he hasn't changed his opinion about HIS church.
Lambasted? No. Encourage you to look for a different church? Most likely.
Do many people come on this board asking, "hey, my pastor believes this" or "my church is saying that"? Yup. Me, too. We solicit the knowledge and opinions of those that may be more learned than we are, or simply seeking a different perspective.
How many posts can you find where someone says I disagree with most of the things about my church--and they continue to post such things over months and years?
Personally, I find it dis-loyal and in poor taste to undermine your pastor and/or church--unless they are truly unscriptural.
Where can you find Tithing in the NT? Where is it forbidden to have a sip of alcohol? What evidence makes one believe that the KJV is the best translation in english? These are unscriptural practices of my church. But I have chosen not to make a big deal out of them in church because they are secondary issues.
But you ARE making a big deal out of it because you keep talking about it and you are now deciding whether or not to vote in a young man into ministry based on these "secondary issues". I don't think they are quite as secondary to you as you think.
Secondary practices, yes. Unscriptural? NO.
Giving is discussed in Acts. The tithe itself is from the Old Testament--which, as we all agree, ALL scripture is profitable--and used as a guideline until a believer is mature enough to exercise their soul liberty on the matter.
The principle behind "forbidden" to sip alcohol is discussed in Romans 14, to keep less mature brothers and sisters from falling into error.
As for the KJV--do they mandate that all members MUST use the KJV? Have they church-disciplined anyone yet for using some other version? If not, then I submit that they're KJV-preferred--which doesn't make them unscriptural. If they have--well, grab your wife and go somewhere else (and yes, I know you'll say it's not that easy....).
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According to your opening post, and your responses to me, you're willing to vote in a youth pastor who agrees with all these things, and you'd be willing to let him teach YOUR children (if you had any)--meaning you're willing to compromise your convictions. Am I misunderstanding you?
Probably because of consistency.
To clarify: the principle of tithing carried over into the N.T. The tithe was originally a mandate, and had come to be--like so many other laws--a measure of salvation. The N.T. teaches that it comes from our hearts; thus, the 10% isn't required; the amount should be from the heart.
The principle of giving didn't change; the mandate of "10% or you're not saved" did.
You do realize that this statement *really* begs the question of why you felt it necessary to bring up those other things you don't like about your church?
Best to just think about that, and let this thread die.