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Hiroshima: will Obama apologize and lick boot straps?

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OK. I can see your point on that. I think it is the duty of all Christians to attempt to avoid war. If that fails, what then?
 
dad1

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rsr said:
OK. I can see your point on that. I think it is the duty of all Christians to attempt to avoid war. If that fails, what then?
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It can't fail. Remember we are not talking about police action, or defending one's family. We are talking about WOMD> modern warfare.
 
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Of course it can fail. The United States was overwhelmed with pacifist sentiment between the wars. It failed. What then?
 
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dad1 said:
Jesus showed us exactly what God was like in case some had any wrong ideas. Jesus loved the little children. Those that burn cities and inflict hell on people are not of God. Period. Those that support them cannot do so with Scripture.

I see many Baptists like John Macarther support war. Example:

"Those verses indicate that God gives governments the responsibility of carrying out punishment on those who commit deadly atrocities--like those perpetrated on September 11. And that responsibility includes waging war when necessary against nations or groups that carry out such actions."

http://www.gtycanada.org/resources/...-about-war-is-there-ever-a-just-reason-for-it

Whoah! Like those who committed 911? Who, praytell was that?? Iraq? Afghanistan? Syria, Lyibia? Insiders..? Etc...

It is one thing John, to punish killers, which many nations hardly even do these days, but another to drone terrorize and wipe out countries.
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Please show me anywhere in scripture where Jesus discussed whether or not we should get into war nationally?
 
dad1

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rsr said:
Of course it can fail. The United States was overwhelmed with pacifist sentiment between the wars. It failed. What then?
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Hilarious. So did they lay down arms, and dissolve armies? Did they turn to Christ, and decide that they would live with whatever power came along? Did they repent for nuking Japan? Sorry, Either we trust God or not.
 
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Hilarious. So did they lay down arms, and dissolve armies? Did they turn to Christ, and decide that they would live with whatever power came along? Did they repent for nuking Japan? Sorry, Either we trust God or not.
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I trust God. I trust Him to provide for my family. Should I just stay home and wait for a check from God?
 
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dad1 said:
Hilarious. So did they lay down arms, and dissolve armies? Did they turn to Christ, and decide that they would live with whatever power came along? Did they repent for nuking Japan? Sorry, Either we trust God or not.
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Yes, they pretty much did lay down their arms. I can't say that they turned to Christ and decided that they would live with whatever power that came along. As citizens (the rulers in context of the New Testament) they decided that was not a path they wanted to follow and would pay the price to keep fascism at bay. Those who trust God are not immune from the world around them.
 
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Revmitchell

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How about what it says? Find an enemy and love the bugger.
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Ok well I have asked you legitimate questions. I have spoken to you in a civil manner. You can apparently avoid war but not an uncivil tongue. You do not really know scripture you just quote bumper stickers.

I will leave you to your misery. God Bless.
 
dad1

dad1

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Revmitchell said:
Ok well I have asked you legitimate questions. I have spoken to you in a civil manner. You can apparently avoid war but not an uncivil tongue. You do not really know scripture you just quote bumper stickers.

I will leave you to your misery. God Bless.
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So you want to pretend God supports nukes and modern war? Run along snip...or make a case.
 
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righteousdude2

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dad1 said:
So you want to pretend God supports nukes and modern war? Run along snip...or make a case.
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Head in the sand, dad1?????? Try loving the terrorist about to remove your head, or better yet, the head of one of your family members!

You can believe what you wish, but it is the brave fighting menand women of this nation who have given you the right and freedom to say what you have said, and not fear death or jail!
 
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rsr

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I think we both have presented our cases and it seems the conversation has turned into name calling. So God bless our feeble consciences as we wrestle with His eternal commands.
 
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