Featured History of an Error: Wrong dates can lead to Bad Theology

Tom, thans for this insight.

Many times an eschatological discussion has ended with an empasse over the detached week, and the assignment of a lack of ability to tell time, to the God who invented time for us.


This:

2Pe 3:8
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Is restating this:

Isa 57:15
15 For thus saith the high and lofty One
that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy;
I dwell in the high and holy place,
with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit,
to revive the spirit of the humble,
and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

That God dwells in eternity.

This also, restates God's relationship to Time:

Rev 22:13
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Present tense 'I am' .
He sees all of Time at once.
He is presently there, at the beginning and the end of Time, always.
This is understood by the definition of "eternity".

This attribute is overlooked,possibly due in part to those mistaken dates.

Implications?
It causes partial preterists, and post tribbers to miss each other coming and going.

For instance:

3&1/2 years....yes, spelled out.

But then there is this:

Dan 12:12
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

Obviously there is a rescue of those who endure 60 days under the reign of the man of Sin, after he flips the switch and declares himself god.

Obviously, the tribes of the earth mourn at this rescue, and call for the rocks to cover them from the face of the Wrathful Lamb, whose children they have persecuted unmercifully for 60 days.

Dispies hang the most on the 70 weeks misapplication, and so pretribbers have the most to lose by eliminating the error.

 

post-trib premillennialism.

That is what I am.

Christ will return after the tribulation, there will be a resurrection of the dead in Christ and a change of those in Christ to rule with him and they will be judged according to the things they did in the flesh. There will be a thousand year judgement period and then another resurrection including judgement.

Then will be the end, of death. And the kingdom delivered to the Father.

 

Since Daniel is being discussed...

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand Matt 24:15

But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains Mark 13:14

 

You only quoted Matt and Mark. Luke also has this discourse and clearly shows that the abomination was the Roman armies that surrounded Jerusalem prior to it's destruction in 70AD.

Luk 21:20-22 NASB - "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near. "Then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains, and those who are in the midst of the city must leave, and those who are in the country must not enter the city; because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled.​

Compare to your verses:

Mat 24:15-16 NASB - "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.

Mar 13:14-16 NASB - "But when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION standing where it should not be (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. "The one who is on the housetop must not go down, or go in to get anything out of his house; and the one who is in the field must not turn back to get his coat. ​

Also Tom had a great point.

 

:thumbsup:

Good summary.

I was pretrib dispy for a long time, raised in it and taught it. But it simply isn't there, so now I'm historic premill leaning amill.

 

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed,
the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth
in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 2 Thess 2:3-4

All the Kohen have been trained, all their garments made, all implements of the Temple have been recreated.
All that is needed is for the "Holy Place and the Most Holy Place" to be erected, in order to resume oblation & sacrifice.

 

Wrong dates can lead to Bad Theology and when it leads one to deny a future and literal coming of Jesus then it leads to complete heresy.

 

Wrong. Temple oblation and sacrifices continued until 70 AD. Even Paul took a vow and offered a sacrifice at the temple.
There is a lot more going on there than just Yom Kippor (like circumcision, offering for newborn, etc.). It will resume.

 

The prophecy completion is 490 years and brings us to 40AD (70 shabuwa`).

So you are admitting now that there is a "gap".

Seventy weeks shabuwa are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression,
and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness,
and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Daniel 9:24