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History of the C-Virus shot
- Thread starter Salty
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KenH
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I accepted it as soon as emergency authorization was approved.
I accepted the validity of the shot when it was approved. The reason vaccines took so long to produce was largely red tape. Trump cut that tape. But it does not appear any short cuts were taken in actual production (in times past we did not wait 5 to 10 years just to see if there were side-effects).
And that is what some people are concerned about - and I do accept that as a valid concern.
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huh?
I think your timeline has been covid'ed. It's been two years since the virus rode the coattail of a CCP agent into the wet market.
Pfizer's first trial started about 15 months ago ... participants getting significantly culled about 1/2 way through.
Next summer, assuming we'll be notified, will be "howdy duty time" for those poor saps who took the jabs. If the CV mRNA tests on the various animals are a gauge of mortality.
I'd say if we are into the summer '23 and we haven't had an increase in death/injury, then the mRNA vax will begin to be considered safe. IDK if it's ever going to be "effective" if ya gotta keep taking the jab to stay in Defcon 1/cell-mediated response mode.
I agree side-effects are legitimate concerns. I disagree long-term side-effects alienated from short-term effects are legitimate concerns, but I understand they are concerns some have nonetheless.
Think of ot this way - people on this board reject the idea mRNA vaccines are safe in general based on studies of the rabies mRNA vaccines given in 2013 because it was a study with a limited population rather than given to the general population.
But that is what all studies are. It is after the clinical trials that vaccines are released to the general public.
So we have evidence of a mRNA vaccine without long term side effect (after 8 years). But that is rejected because it was not within the general public.
It does not make sense.
The first covid shots were May 2020. No unexpected side-effects have surfaced thus far. There is no amount of time that will be long enough for most anti-covid-vaxers.
KenH
Well-Known Member
Do you think I am a "poor sap"?
KenH
Well-Known Member
Is this part of your eschatology about the Jews building a temple in the next two years?
you're really fond of making reference to this rabies shot aren't ya?
The hesitation is due to the VERY small test sample and very short term trial. Now we know why, thanks to Sen Ron Johnson's panel ... those with adverse effects were dismissed. So the end of it showed "no problem."
that's not been the at large experience for those who actually received the mRNA Covid19 shot. TENS of thousands have died because of this thing (at a minimum) ... hundreds of thousands with significant injury. The government's own tracker reveals this.
I've stated 3 years ... but I already know they've hidden a lot of serious side-effect cases. So ... I'm sticking with my immune system and effective therapeutics if needed post infection. it's worked for my anti-flu strategy. Isn't that the standard? Whatever works for the flu.
First Pfizer vaccines were given March 16, 2020. So a little over 20 months.
Unless you knew you got a placebo ... yes.
no ... though the timing is curiously parallel, isn't it! Hmm. Think/pray on this I will.
somewhere else you stated May '20. I thought it was June, but I've slept since I read through all that material a year ago. I wasn't gonna quibble over a month ... but almost 3 months?
Whatever. I've answered Salty with my outlook. Summer '23 ... that's 3 years after the trial (however shallow/exclusive they were) ... the results of which, by the way, are being blocked from FOIA release until 2076???
I'd like to hear the justification for that.
KenH
Well-Known Member
were you one of the 40K participants in the 3 month trial, Ken?
I missed that understanding if you were.
I missed this ...
without the obvious obsfucation of legal entities. Clearly there's a difference between the Pfizer/BioNTech/Comiraty ... and the J/J ... and the Moderna.
All three of these were loosed virtually simultaneously. Which was approved ... which was authorized.
What's the difference in the terminology?
KenH
Well-Known Member
Maybe I misunderstood you. Are you calling only those in the trials "poor saps"?
yessir ... since that was the original point in the timeline referenced "almost two years." Sorry for my being unclear on that.
But I'm astounded by the acceptance in such large numbers. Then again ... when I got my first sony walkman cassette player, CDs had been the dominate format for about 5 years. So, I tend to avoid the new/improved.
I don't look to be a test pilot, either. Externals make flying sufficiently exciting ... don't need the steed to be bucking me off.
KenH
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Okay. Sorry for the misunderstanding.