History of YOUR home church?

[convicted1]

I am wanting to know the history of all of y'alls home church, and see how far back you can trace it. Here's mine:

Little Martha ORB organized May, 2009 from an arm given by the Little Jewell ORB. We went into, and still remain, in the Indian Bottom Assoc. of ORBs.

Little Jewell went to the Indian Bottom Assoc. of ORBs from the Union Assoc. in Sept., 2002.

Little Jewell went into Union Assoc. in Sept., 1986 from the Northern New Salem Assoc. of ORBs.

Little Jewell went into Northern New Salem Assoc. of ORBs in Aug., 1958 and became a one of seven charter churches that formed that assoc. from and arm of the New Salem Assoc. of ORBs.

Little Jewell was received into the New Salem Assoc. of ORBs in Sept. 1947.

Little Jewell organized in Oct. 1946 from an arm given from the South Fork ORB in Philadelphia Assoc. of ORBs.

Philadelphia Assoc. organized from an arm given by New Salem Assoc. in 1925.

New Salem organized from an arm given by the Burning Springs Assoc. of United Baptists in 1825. Burning Springs is now known as a Primitive Baptist assoc.

Burning Springs organized in 1814 with eleven churches and 403 members.

I can not trace this any further. How far can y'all go back? BTW, who can help me with where the churches came from that made up BSPB??

Link for BSUB:http://mark.s.carroll.angelfire.com/burning_springs.html

Link for Little Jewell:http://www.littlejewell.org/history.html

Link for the history of the ORBs:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Regular_Baptist

There is a chart at the bottom of this webpage that has the Assoc. and where they got their arm from.

 

[Old Union Brother]

The Union Old Regular Baptist church was organized in 1820 by an arm from the Salem Regular Baptist Church of the Burning Springs Baptist Association.

Our lineage from the original Philidelphia Association

Philadelphia Association was organized in 1701

The Philadelphia Association gave an arm and organized the Katockon Association in 1766.

The Katockon Association gave an arm and organized the Holsten association in 1783.

The Holsten association in 1783 gave an arm and organized the South Elkhorn Association in 1784.

The South Elkhorn Association organized the South Kentucky Association in 1787, which became the South and North District in 1801.

The North District Association gave an arm and organized the Burning Springs Association in 1813.

The Burning Springs gave an arm to organize the New Salem Association in 1825.

The New Salem Association gave an arm in 1859 consisting of the following churches: Thornton, Bethel, Elkhorn, Sulphur Spring, Pound Fork, Holly Creek, Union, Cloe, and Raccoon to meet at the Union Church the Friday before the second Saturday in November 1859. A presbytery to constitute the new association was chosen consisting of Jordan Ashley, B.E. Caudill, J. A. Caudill and Elders M.T. Lipps and L. Edwards. The new association took the name Union after the oldest church in the arm.

 

[Deacon]

Crossing Community Church was formed by a difuse group of believers who first met together in 1977.

No associations, no fellowshps, no denominational connections.

That's as far as she goes.

Rob

 

[glfredrick]

Sojourn Community Church in Louisville, KY, was founded in 2001 by a handful of seminary students from Southern Seminary who had a radical idea of how a church could reach the unreachable gen X and gen Y people. Now, 10 years later with 4 campuses, over 2500 in average attendance, and an average age under 30, the success and blessing of God is much in evidence!

 

[Tom Butler]

East Baptist Church in Paducah, Kentucky, was established in 1891 on the city's south side. The charter members came from First Baptist Church, which (I think) was established in 1842.

Little is known about the church for the first 10 years, but we have the minutes of each business meeting since 1901. They are a gold mine of little nuggets. In the early days, it was a church robustly congregational in government.

The minutes detail church discipline practiced routinely, but redemptively; it outlines a crisis around 1917 over whether the Sunday School would be subservient to the church, or operate as an independent entity. (The church won).

The minutes record the disfellowshipping of a member for gambling. His gambling offense? He invested in the stock market.

The minutes record that around 1930 a man was disfellowshipped for dancing--with his wife. He refused to repent. His wife did express regret, and was forgiven.

There were no permanent committees until the 1940s. Ad hoc committees were appointed for specific purposes, and dismissed when their job was finished.

In the 1930s, two men came to the business meeting and asked the church to mediate a dispute between them. The church heard them both, rendered an opinion, both men agreed and were reconciled.

See what I mean about a gold mine?

 

[RG2]

This is what I know of my church and the church that it came from... or the church that split off of it depending on how you look at it.

Murphy Road Baptist Church originally established as Murphy Baptist Church in 1900. In 1979 a new piece of property was bought a mile south of the old location and the church voted to relocate. 35 people from the original Murphy Baptist Church did not wish to relocate so the old church became First Baptist Church Murphy, where the new church retained the Murphy Baptist Church name. After years of confusion and problems Murphy Baptist Church voted to become Murphy Road Baptist Church. FBC Murphy in 2009 ended up moving the historic building and relocating a mile north.

 

[convicted1]

The Union Old Regular Baptist church was organized in 1820 by an arm from the Salem Regular Baptist Church of the Burning Springs Baptist Association.

Our lineage from the original Philidelphia Association

Philadelphia Association was organized in 1701

The Philadelphia Association gave an arm and organized the Katockon Association in 1766.

The Katockon Association gave an arm and organized the Holsten association in 1783.

The Holsten association in 1783 gave an arm and organized the South Elkhorn Association in 1784.

The South Elkhorn Association organized the South Kentucky Association in 1787, which became the South and North District in 1801.

The North District Association gave an arm and organized the Burning Springs Association in 1813.

The Burning Springs gave an arm to organize the New Salem Association in 1825.

The New Salem Association gave an arm in 1859 consisting of the following churches: Thornton, Bethel, Elkhorn, Sulphur Spring, Pound Fork, Holly Creek, Union, Cloe, and Raccoon to meet at the Union Church the Friday before the second Saturday in November 1859. A presbytery to constitute the new association was chosen consisting of Jordan Ashley, B.E. Caudill, J. A. Caudill and Elders M.T. Lipps and L. Edwards. The new association took the name Union after the oldest church in the arm.

Bro. Jeff,

Would it be safe to say that the Philadelphia Association was the first baptist church(at least in this general area) association formed after they came over from England? The Pilgrims came to Plymouth Rock in 1620, so is there any record of an association forming between 1620 and 1701 that Philadelphia came from. Or, did they form this association and it is the starting point?

Willis

 

[convicted1]

Crossing Community Church was formed by a difuse group of believers who first met together in 1977.

No associations, no fellowshps, no denominational connections.

That's as far as she goes.

Rob

Thank you, Brother Rob, for your imput in this thread. I pray that God richly blesses your church to grow!! :thumbs:

 

[convicted1]

Sojourn Community Church in Louisville, KY, was founded in 2001 by a handful of seminary students from Southern Seminary who had a radical idea of how a church could reach the unreachable gen X and gen Y people. Now, 10 years later with 4 campuses, over 2500 in average attendance, and an average age under 30, the success and blessing of God is much in evidence!

Sounds like y'all used "guick grow" to grow that big, that fast!! Wow!! Thanks for your imput!! May God continue to bless you to grow!! :thumbs:

 

[convicted1]

East Baptist Church in Paducah, Kentucky, was established in 1891 on the city's south side. The charter members came from First Baptist Church, which (I think) was established in 1842.

Little is known about the church for the first 10 years, but we have the minutes of each business meeting since 1901. They are a gold mine of little nuggets. In the early days, it was a church robustly congregational in government.

The minutes detail church discipline practiced routinely, but redemptively; it outlines a crisis around 1917 over whether the Sunday School would be subservient to the church, or operate as an independent entity. (The church won).

The minutes record the disfellowshipping of a member for gambling. His gambling offense? He invested in the stock market.

The minutes record that around 1930 a man was disfellowshipped for dancing--with his wife. He refused to repent. His wife did express regret, and was forgiven.

There were no permanent committees until the 1940s. Ad hoc committees were appointed for specific purposes, and dismissed when their job was finished.

In the 1930s, two men came to the business meeting and asked the church to mediate a dispute between them. The church heard them both, rendered an opinion, both men agreed and were reconciled.

See what I mean about a gold mine?

Thank you Brother Tom for this bunch of info in this thread!! :thumbs:

I live about five minutes from Silver Creek United Baptist church, that used to be in the Old Zion Assoc. of UB's. They have been an indy for a few years now, and may have dropped the "United", and go by SCB church, but I am not for sure. I work with a member of this church, and he said they were reading some old minutes from back in the 1850's and read where a Brother was excluded for just walking down the street with a FWB. True story.

 

[convicted1]

This is what I know of my church and the church that it came from... or the church that split off of it depending on how you look at it.

Murphy Road Baptist Church originally established as Murphy Baptist Church in 1900. In 1979 a new piece of property was bought a mile south of the old location and the church voted to relocate. 35 people from the original Murphy Baptist Church did not wish to relocate so the old church became First Baptist Church Murphy, where the new church retained the Murphy Baptist Church name. After years of confusion and problems Murphy Baptist Church voted to become Murphy Road Baptist Church. FBC Murphy in 2009 ended up moving the historic building and relocating a mile north.

Thank you Brother!! :thumbs:

I am in the Indian Bottom Assoc. of ORB's, and one of our Sister churches has a story similiar to this. The church name is Little Rosa, and at one time was in the New Salem Assoc. of ORBs. The IB and NS do not correspond with each other, and will not preach with one another(long story), and when Little Rosa was set out of New Salem, some of the members went about 1.5 miles from there, built a new church, kept the same "Little Rosa" name, and somehow, they were let back in New Salem. The Little Rosa in our assoc. has the original building, and after a few years of being an indy, decided to see about lettering up with IB. After a few meetings with each other, in 2005 or 2006, they were taken in to IB. Now, I do not know all the details concerning this situation, but this is what I have gleaned from others who spoke about it.

Willis

 

[Old Union Brother]

Bro. Jeff,

Would it be safe to say that the Philadelphia Association was the first baptist church(at least in this general area) association formed after they came over from England? The Pilgrims came to Plymouth Rock in 1620, so is there any record of an association forming between 1620 and 1701 that Philadelphia came from. Or, did they form this association and it is the starting point?

Willis

The original Philadelphia Association appears to be the first Baptist Asociation in the colonies.

From the 1707 minutes:

THERE is no track or footsteps of any regular association, agreement, or confederation, between the first churches in these colonies of Pennsylvania and the Jerseys, that I can find, before the year 1707, when we have, in the records of the church of Pennepek, this account, viz: — Before our general meeting, held at Philadelphia, in the seventh month, 1707, it was concluded by the several congregations of our judgment, to make choice of some particular brethren, such as they thought most capable in every congregation, and those to meet at the yearly meeting to consult about such things as were wanting in the churches, and to set them in order; and these brethren meeting at the said yearly meeting, which began the 27th of the seventh month, on the seventh day of the week, agreed to continue the meeting till the third day following in the work of the public ministry

The first 100 years of minutes can be found here.

 

[glfredrick]

Sounds like y'all used "guick grow" to grow that big, that fast!! Wow!! Thanks for your imput!! May God continue to bless you to grow!! :thumbs:

We used a lot of things, but mainly a return to the book of Acts, and a reversal of many things typically "churchy" which were replaced by true gospel community, a high bar to hurdle for membership, and a covenant expectation for all members.

We got rid of elements that halt growth in many churches:

*Political orientation
*Style of dress (save that we value modesty and teach such from the pulpit and in community group meetings)
*Music style (you can and will hear almost any type of music in our services)
*"Noun" preaching (and also preaching that only leads to death instead of life)
*Anything "Arminian" (or anthropologically centered -- we realize that only God can build His church!)
*A lack of faith (our people are naive in that regard, they will do or try anything, thinking always that God will both provide and protect -- so far, He has!)
*And a lack of outreach (though our outreach is very non-traditional, no deacons going out wearing suits and carrying fliers for the church -- we host medical clinics that see 300+ people, host free and paid concerts, have an active and working art gallery, a recording studio, etc.)

We have an ongoing vision campaign of $5.3 million (over 5 years), and an annual budget of $3 million to operate our 4 campuses. And, our average congregational age is under 30. Those people that others would call freaks are schooled in the gospel and live accordingly.

Our people are asked -- and they respond -- to move into really bad sections of town, and our church campuses have led the charge by purchasing school buildings in bad neighborhoods as a base of operations. As people move in and community transformation begins, God works and change happens, all causing further growth!

No special "tricks" or other church growth techniques are used. In fact, we are rather decidedly not seeker sensitive, but rather theologically and gospel-driven.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

What if your over 50 Guy & praise music annoys you......you got programs for Geezers!

BTW....in the church I'm attending now there is I guy with these big / Long bongo drums........I have very un-pure thoughts where in his anatomy I'd like to put those drums (I'm a very sinful man)

BTW....that under 30 stuff you keep quoting really bothers me. Seems your saying we oldsters dont have value!

 

[MichaelBuckingham]

It is very encouraging to hear about other people's churches and how the Lord has blessed them.

My home Church is Oakington Baptist Chapel near Cambridge UK.

The Church started to meet in a house in the mid 1800's but it wasn't until the late 1800's that the church building was built.

As I understand, we have had only 3 official pastors, and the most members we have ever had is now, we have currently 10 church members although the congregation that gathers there is about 40 people.

We haven't had a pastor since the earlier part of 1900's.

Currently we have 2 preachers that preach part time, but are not pastors.

 

[glfredrick]

What if your over 50 Guy & praise music annoys you......you got programs for Geezers!

BTW....in the church I'm attending now there is I guy with these big / Long bongo drums........I have very un-pure thoughts where in his anatomy I'd like to put those drums (I'm a very sinful man)

BTW....that under 30 stuff you keep quoting really bothers me. Seems your saying we oldsters dont have value!

I'm over 50 and praise music annoys me... :thumbs:

So, I joined a church where the average age is under 30, where the music mostly consists of re-arranged hymns set to a hard-driving indie-rock sound, and the worship service consists of a darkened room, celebration of the Lord's Table every worship service, and a liturgy.

What I tend to dislike is "happy-clappy" church. A real place where people are searching the scriptures for real answers, and where God is really engaged works for me, no matter the culture.

Older folks (like me!) have infinite value -- IF -- we can get off of our "blessed assurances" and get on with the program. Our church is now attracting a large contingent of older folks, mainly because we actually have a mission that we are actively engaged in meeting. Each will tell a similar story about how it took a while to get the hang of the young stuff going on in the service -- coffee, music loud enough to wake the neighbors, a beat that just doesn't jive with, "And a one, and a two, and a three, and a four..." and <gasp> engagement with art and culture.

 

[convicted1]

The original Philadelphia Association appears to be the first Baptist Asociation in the colonies.

From the 1707 minutes:



The first 100 years of minutes can be found here.

So, basically, there were no associations in the colonies(and in the whole America of that time, probably) prior to 1701. In the first years in the colonies, 1620-1701, they had to do a lot of work to get things ready to live. Cut down timber to build houses, till the earth for gardens, fight with the injuns(LOL), etc. So, I guess an association was way down on their "totem pole", huh, Bro. Jeff? Its amazing that so many associations have sprung forth from one association that formed in 1701. We do serve an awesome God, Bro. Jeff!! :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbsup: Love you Bro. Jeff.

 

[convicted1]

I found so pretty good nuggets of info from this webpage:http://www.gpp-5grace.com/graceproclamator/pp0199welshtractchurch.htm

"This church was constituted in Pembrokeshire, in South Wales, in the year 1701, at which time the first members of this church were about to come over into Pennsylvania; they then, by the advice and counsel of the churches they came from, in Pembrokeshire and Carmathenshire, entered into a church covenant, and state their number was sixteen persons; and among them was the Rev. Mr. Thomas Griffith, to be their minister.

Looks like the Philadelphia Association started in South Wales, and moved over to Pennsylvania upon formation. What I mean is that this church was formed in South Wales, and when it moved to Pennsylvania, it eventually helped to form this association.

Another historian records the organization as follows: "In the year 1701, he [Thomas Griffiths] and fifteen of the members of the church went to America in the same vessel. They formed themselves into a church at Milford, in the county of Pembroke, South Wales, and Thomas Griffiths became their pastor in the month of June, 1701. They embarked on board the ship James and Mary, and on the 8th day of September following, they landed at Philadelphia. The brethren there treated them courteously, and advised them to settle about Pennepeck. Thither they went, and there continued about a year and a half. During that time twenty-one persons joined them, but finding it inconvenient to abide there, they purchased land in the county of Newcastle, and gave it the name of Welsh Tract, where they built a meeting-house, and Thomas Griffiths labored among them as their pastor till he died, on the 25th of July, 1725, aged eighty years."

So, it looks kinda like this could have been one of the churches that helped to get the Philadelphia up and running!! :thumbs:

 

[old regular]

Mount Zion

The Mount Zion Old Regular Baptist(Primitive side) was organized as the Little Maudie Church in the New Salem Association in the early 1950s (1954) it was an arm from the Little Rebecca which was an arm from the Cold Springs which was an arm from Philadelphia/Stone Coal, Philadelphia came from Stone Coal, Stone Coal came from the Licking/ South Licking Association of Particular Baptist these Particulars trace themselves back to the Philadelphia Association of Regular Baptist(Now Missionary), back to the Welch Tract church(Still Old School baptist) The churches we came from have belonged to different Associations through the years such as North District, Burning Springs, Washington District,New Salem ,Northern New Salem, Sovereign Grace they have never belonged to anything but Old School Baptist Associations, the churches in this chain are still functionial churches Stone Cole is the oldest established in 1800 or in some histories 1808. Bro. Slone

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Bro. Jeff,

Would it be safe to say that the Philadelphia Association was the first baptist church(at least in this general area) association formed after they came over from England? The Pilgrims came to Plymouth Rock in 1620, so is there any record of an association forming between 1620 and 1701 that Philadelphia came from. Or, did they form this association and it is the starting point?

Willis

The Pilgrims were not Baptists. They were Separatists/Congregationalists. Not to be confused with their bigger brothers the Puritans. The first Baptists were located in Rhode Island.