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How did you discover the Bible teaches a pre-trib rapture?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 37818, Jan 16, 2019.

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  1. Lodic

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    Interesting. I'd never heard that, but certainly have no reason to doubt you. Then Irving was the first to preach any form of dispensationalism / the rapture?
     
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    As far as I know. The Morning Watch Magazine is available on Google books. You will have to plough through them till you come to it, which is what I was doing when I found it. I was just looking through thre copies to see what they taught, not looking for anything in particular.
     
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    The Irvingites ran annual conferences on prophecy at Albury in London.l Amongst those attending was Lady Powerscourt, who then ran similar conferences in Powerscout Ireland. Among thosae attemnding were Irving and Darby. I seem to remember reading that Darby once considered marrying Lady Powercourt.
     
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    No, that would be Isaac Watts (1674-1748). Here is a link to a scholarly article about that (also linked here for David): http://scottaniol.com/wp-content/uploads/Aniol2.pdf

    That was not long after covenant theology was being invented by Kaspar Olevianus (1536-1587), making the charge irrelevant that dispensation theology is wrong simply because it is a recent invention.

    The age of a theology is never a proof as to its falsity or truth. The doctrine of verbal-plenary inspiration was not fully developed until Gaussen's book in the 19th century, though Turretin, the Reformation writer, approached it. But I would say the great majority of us here on the BB would hold to verbal-plenary inspiration. God raises up theologians for certain doctrines when it is necessary in salvation history, not necessarily before then.
     
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    Yes, but here is what he wrote about Scofield (from your quote):

    Sounds like an enemy to me.

    But at the most, this is just an opinion. Mauro gives no historical evidence for his charge that Scofield got his system from Darby: letters, books, articles, direct quotes, etc. And I've shown how different Scofield's system was from Darby's. It's easy to make charges without proof. For example: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is from outer space. I'll get the proof later, but trust me; just listen to her. :Biggrin
     
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    Here is a link to a scholarly journal article that proves it:
    http://scottaniol.com/wp-content/uploads/Aniol2.pdf

    Also in the article it mentions the dispensational theologies of Pierre Poiret (1646–1719) and John Edwards (1637–1716). So, in a word, it is contrary to history that Darby started the whole thing.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    Granted. But I wasn't talking about just the book of Revelation. :p (And I did skim the article.)
     
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    Any time. I like your style. :)
     
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    Likewise. BTW - I must confess that I just ran across your earlier response with the link to the PDF "Watts" article. I saved it to my PC, and plan to read it later today. Thank you for sharing.
     
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