How Do Calvanists/Free Will Define "Original Sin" And "Depravity of man?"

[JesusFan]

What would be the "classic" terminology used todefine these 2 concepts?

How would these 2 concepts relate to how salvation is obtained/received in both groups?

 

[Winman]

What would be the "classic" terminology used todefine these 2 concepts?

How would these 2 concepts relate to how salvation is obtained/received in both groups?

Why do you ask so many questions? Do you not know anything yourself, or do you purposely ask controversial questions to sow discord and strife?
Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination to him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, AND HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN.
I hope you are not asking all these questions to create discord, that is a serious offense with God, but I notice you almost never participate beyond asking a controversial question.
Why don't you give us your view first?

 

[jbh28]

Why do you ask so many questions? Do you not know anything yourself, or do you purposely ask controversial questions to sow discord and strife?

I'm going to have to agree with Winman.

Pro 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination to him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, AND HE THAT SOWETH DISCORD AMONG BRETHREN.
I hope you are not asking all these questions to create discord, that is a serious offense with God, but I notice you almost never participate beyond asking a controversial question.
Why don't you give us your view first?

There's a fancy word for that Winman, It's called trolling.

 

[Winman]

I'm going to have to agree with Winman.

There's a fancy word for that Winman, It's called trolling.

Yeah, we have enough trouble getting along as it is, we certainly do not need someone to come along and intentionally start strife.

See Jhb28, sometimes we are in perfect agreement!

 

[jbh28]

Yeah, we have enough trouble getting along as it is, we certainly do not need someone to come along and intentionally start strife.

See Jhb28, sometimes we are in perfect agreement!

It was preordained that we would agree on this!:laugh:

 

[Winman]

It was preordained that we would agree on this!:laugh:

I have a great friend I work with who also attends my church. We are always kidding around.
One day he said, "You sure are disagreeable." I responded, "NO I'M NOT!"

 

[JesusFan]

The main reason that I am asking these questions is that I am trying to get a "handle" on understanding where and why the various positions in our Baptist circles come about, as it relates to a Biblical framwork...

In this particular case...

IF those of us who hold to a free will or a Reformed understanding on these 2 concepts have them framed from the Bible...

Which would be the main scriptures used to support the held positions?

I belive that man is totally depraib=ved from birth, but am trying to get a better understanding IF that is really what the bible seems to be teaching!

And is original Sin meaning here that we all inheireted the Sin from Adam, a stae we all get born into, or ii it something else?