How do you deal with people that wrong or lie about you?

[evangelist6589]

How do you deal with people that wrong, or lie about you? It could be employers at the job/other employees, people on the streets, people at church? You may try to present your story but no one believes you. Unbelievers love to lie and wrong believers, and even some Christians do the same. I personally hate being falsely accused and try and clear myself but it does not always work.

One the streets I go there expecting to be lied about, falsely accused, etc.. Ray Comfort has had people cuss him out, slander him, etc.. However on a job, or in a church environment I do not expect that, but it happens. How do you deal with it? Being falsely accused is not easy.

 

[Don]

Watchman Nee would never defend himself. He endured the criticism of others his entire life.

Romans 12:20

 

[evangelist6589]

Watchman Nee would never defend himself. He endured the criticism of others his entire life.

Romans 12:20

Who is that?

Rm 12:20
On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”[a]

Good passage.

 

[Mexdeaf]

WWJD?:jesus:

 

[InTheLight]

I would go on a Baptist forum, post my problem, listen to answers, collate a consensus opinion, and then ignore it.

Then I'd post another problem and go through the process again. And again. And again.

 

[Don]

Who is that?

Missionary to China many years ago. Look him up.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Watchman Nee would never defend himself. He endured the criticism of others his entire life.

Yeah, and he had a lot to defend, didn't he?

The thread title is about those who are wrong, or lie about you. Nee's theology was messed up, though he did great work and is to be commended for building the 20th Century church in China. But when you say things like this ...

"God cannot do anything at will; He has to do everything through the church. Without going through the church, God cannot do anything. Brothers and sisters, this is a very sober principle. God cannot do anything by Himself today. There is a free will besides His will. If this will does not cooperate with Him, He cannot do anything. The amount of power that the church has expresses the amount of power that God has because His power is expressed through the church. God has placed Himself in the church. The height and extent that the church reaches is the height and extent that God’s power reaches. If the power of the church is small and restricted, God cannot express the height or extensiveness of His power”

-- The Prayer Ministry of the Church (Nee, 1947)​

... there is no defense in being accused of "wrong." You're just plain wrong. That "god" described by Nee is not the God I worship. As Herman Hoeksema profoundly states, “An anxious and pleading God, whose power is limited, and whose hands may be tied by the proud and stubborn sinner, who is less than dust of the balance, is no God, but a miserable idol!" Nee greatly emphasized prayer, but beyond reason, to the point that it is obvious he believed that the Church controlled Heaven and not the other way around. This is very akin to the Word-faith movement of Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland and Eddie Long, that God is some sort of a genie waiting to be let loose to fulfill our pleas, of course through prayer. For that belief, there is no defense, though I know Nee attempted to defend it throughout his life.

 

[Baptist Believer]

Christ endured enormous amounts of criticism from the religious realm, but he was generally well-received by "sinners."

If you are doing God's work, do not be surprised that people hate you, falsely accuse you, and persecute you. A servant is not greater than his Master.

I listen to criticism to determine if I may be in error or not communicating clearly. However, I generally ignore the unjust criticism (that's their problem, not mine) and false accusations. I take it as an opportunity to practice loving my enemies and look for opportunities to do good for them. I'm not that good at it yet, but I am improving as I grow in grace.

Occasionally, it is appropriate for a sharp and direct rebuke, but you need to do it out of concern for others, not out of anger.

 

[Revmitchell]

Watchman Nee was a heretic who believed in Millennial exclusion.

I wonder how many of these threads are going to be started on this same thing?

 

[JohnnyReb]

A clear conscious. If its clear then liars are sinning and you aren't responsible for that. Let it go

 

[DHK]

Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

 

[evangelist6589]

WWJD?:jesus:

He was silent when falsely accused and made no attempt to persuade liars.

 

[Aaron]

How do you deal with people that wrong, or lie about you? It could be employers at the job/other employees, people on the streets, people at church? You may try to present your story but no one believes you. Unbelievers love to lie and wrong believers, and even some Christians do the same. I personally hate being falsely accused and try and clear myself but it does not always work.

One the streets I go there expecting to be lied about, falsely accused, etc.. Ray Comfort has had people cuss him out, slander him, etc.. However on a job, or in a church environment I do not expect that, but it happens. How do you deal with it? Being falsely accused is not easy.

I confront the liars and kick their butts.

 

[evangelist6589]

Yeah, and he had a lot to defend, didn't he?

The thread title is about those who are wrong, or lie about you. Nee's theology was messed up, though he did great work and is to be commended for building the 20th Century church in China. But when you say things like this ...



... there is no defense in being accused of "wrong." You're just plain wrong. That "god" described by Nee is not the God I worship. As Herman Hoeksema profoundly states, “An anxious and pleading God, whose power is limited, and whose hands may be tied by the proud and stubborn sinner, who is less than dust of the balance, is no God, but a miserable idol!" Nee greatly emphasized prayer, but beyond reason, to the point that it is obvious he believed that the Church controlled Heaven and not the other way around. This is very akin to the Word-faith movement of Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland and Eddie Long, that God is some sort of a genie waiting to be let loose to fulfill our pleas, of course through prayer. For that belief, there is no defense, though I know Nee attempted to defend it throughout his life.

It sounds like his theology was completely backwards. God cannot do anything without the church heh? What hogwash.

 

[Aaron]

Seriously, someone who can't seem to get along at any job he has isn't suffering for righteousness' sake. I'd say you're pretty much a self-righteous jerk and you're bring it on yourself.

The thing to do is mind your own business, do your job, and your actions in service of your employer will be your best defense.

 

[evangelist6589]

Christ endured enormous amounts of criticism from the religious realm, but he was generally well-received by "sinners."

If you are doing God's work, do not be surprised that people hate you, falsely accuse you, and persecute you. A servant is not greater than his Master.

I listen to criticism to determine if I may be in error or not communicating clearly. However, I generally ignore the unjust criticism (that's their problem, not mine) and false accusations. I take it as an opportunity to practice loving my enemies and look for opportunities to do good for them. I'm not that good at it yet, but I am improving as I grow in grace.

Occasionally, it is appropriate for a sharp and direct rebuke, but you need to do it out of concern for others, not out of anger.

Once I got accused of harassing someone because I gave out gospel tracts to people on the streets and they said that was harassment. I did not defend myself but just moved on and ignored their lies and deceptions.

Also another time recently someone said it was inappropriate that I would go through the 10 commandments with a woman. I also ignored them and said I would not witness to them again.

One needs to act like Christ when falsely accused. Not easy in my own power if not impossible.

 

[evangelist6589]

Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

The best advice yet. Thank you!!

 

[evangelist6589]

A clear conscious. If its clear then liars are sinning and you aren't responsible for that. Let it go

I need to follow this advice. Its not easy but practice makes perfect.

 

[evangelist6589]

Seriously, someone who can't seem to get along at any job he has isn't suffering for righteousness' sake. I'd say you're pretty much a self-righteous jerk and you're bring it on yourself.

The thing to do is mind your own business, do your job, and your actions in service of your employer will be your best defense.

I wasn't talking about a job sir.

 

[Don]

Yeah, and he had a lot to defend, didn't he?

The thread title is about those who are wrong, or lie about you. Nee's theology was messed up, though he did great work and is to be commended for building the 20th Century church in China. But when you say things like this ...



... there is no defense in being accused of "wrong." You're just plain wrong. That "god" described by Nee is not the God I worship. As Herman Hoeksema profoundly states, “An anxious and pleading God, whose power is limited, and whose hands may be tied by the proud and stubborn sinner, who is less than dust of the balance, is no God, but a miserable idol!" Nee greatly emphasized prayer, but beyond reason, to the point that it is obvious he believed that the Church controlled Heaven and not the other way around. This is very akin to the Word-faith movement of Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland and Eddie Long, that God is some sort of a genie waiting to be let loose to fulfill our pleas, of course through prayer. For that belief, there is no defense, though I know Nee attempted to defend it throughout his life.

You're right; bad example on my part. Didn't think that one through before I posted it. Shoulda just stuck with the Romans reference.