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So a historian born in 1985 could not talk credibly about JFK? Or how do you know that there was a Sir Francis Drake?

 

OK, with that definition, belief is axiomatic, and as a noun synonymous. That is, knowledge is a belief.

From there, especially when it comes to God, we could complicate things considerably, even necessarily.

One could believe someone attributed the declaration to God, yet not believe God said it, or even believe in God. One could also believe God said it, yet not internalize it, or even get its significance.

I think I might switch to talking about realization at this point. But I won't try to go farther here. I'd only get lost.

 

I think the faith you speak of needs to be put into the context I presented and addressed in that light. You've taken a very small clip from my post and side tracked several issues I've raised concerning the origin of knowledge, influence and response, desires coming from human reasoning and God acting upon these desires wherein the cause of His blessings are seen as a relational response rather than a pre-determined cause and effect.

 

In this case, knowledge is belief in something that is true, or belief in something that is related to what is true. So, for example, I can believe that all of scripture is true, if some of it has been objectively proved. It does not mean that I believe it all, or even understand it all, or have even read it all. But again, belief is axiomatic, even synonymous with knowledge here. Much of the belief/knowledge requires only indirect support, and one can grow in it in several ways.

 

It is the Determinist who conflates God’s Omniscience with evil, not I. Not in a million years would you hear me attribute evil to God, no evil can be said to be from God, zero, zilch, nada despite your proof-text, Isaiah 45:7, which you apparently believes proves otherwise. FYI, I would and most certainly do argue against the Classical Theological view that puts God’s knowledge in a box while claiming since God is Omniscient he must have pre-determined all things.

In no way does Gen 3:22 declare that man has obtained God’s knowledge. God’s knowledge is perfect as is His judgment, do you really think God is saying man has obtained this?! Quite the opposite, the message here is man being made in the image and likeness of God, who believed the lie of the Devil and wanted to be as God, IS NOT GOD, his knowledge do not compare to God's, and NOW with his knowledge of good and evil, which he gained of his own volitional will, man falls short of the perfectly good state in which God designed him. Man who was designed with sense, reason and intellect and willfully gained knowledge must NOW put his new gained judgment aside, because there is Only One God who determines/judges good from evil in the Kingdom of Heaven, and man must now just as freely take again the action of putting forth his hand to eat of the tree of life to live.

Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

 

Exactly, and that is what Tacitus is credible along with many others from the ancient secular world.

 

What link do you have about that?

 

What I am objecting to is that you are asking me to disprove one of your own unsubstantiated claims off the top of my head when I would have to do research to answer the question for which you have not provided any substantiation. It could be that one of the ancients said that Christians claimed that Jesus rose from the dead, certainly Josephus said that but it is disputed.

 

That is not the issue at all. For example, it is often noted that all over the earth people have some sort of legend or fable that has to refer to Noah's Flood because it talks about how only a few people survived a flood. So if we can prove from history that there is a Pontius Pilate, for example, then we have more evidence for the foundation of Christianity as based upon historical fact.