How does the Calvinist and Armenian respond to such verses?

[Iconoclast]

Jordan Kurecki

Calvinists consistently redefine phrases like "the world" and "all men" to mean the elect.

the world does not mean the elect, it means the world.

A calvinist who is biblical understands the words by their context.You make no attempt to do so.

All men does not mean the elect... it means all men.

Really.....explain how in the same verse all speaks of two different groups?

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

is all in Adam.....all in Christ?
So .....tell us what it means in your "world":thumbs:

Take the bible for what it says, If I took the Calvinist type approach to scripture then I might as well just be a 7th day Adventist arguing about what Everlasting means and I might as well start denying a literal burning hell. Calvinist do the same thing the SDAs do.

Your bias will soon fade away.....biblicist has called you to give an account for your ideas.....:thumbs:

 

[Yeshua1]

Calvinists consistently redefine phrases like "the world" and "all men" to mean the elect.

the world does not mean the elect, it means the world.

All men does not mean the elect... it means all men.

Take the bible for what it says, If I took the Calvinist type approach to scripture then I might as well just be a 7th day Adventist arguing about what Everlasting means and I might as well start denying a literal burning hell. Calvinist do the same thing the SDAs do.

Problem is that the bible itself gives us the various ways to interprete as meaning at times whole world, all people, and at other time refers to a selected out group, a smallr group out from among larger group..

Context/grammar/greek construction to determine which way to go, but SDA just refers to the voice of the false prophetess!