How effective is God's Grace?

[Isaiah40:28]

I rest my case. Even a simple paragraph, a sentence, is misinterpreted, and responded to in this ridiculous manner.

LOL.
Rest your case do ya?
Alrighty then.

Allow me to break it down for you:

The Kingdom promised to the Jews occurs at the beginning of the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth, for those Jews who survived the Tribulation. They will be saved in one day, at the 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ. They will weep for the one they pierced.

ANYONE, Jew or non-Jew, who receives Christ during the Trib goes instantly into the presence of God.

Another group, authentic, born again Christians (including those Jews who receive Christ as Savior in their lifetime), will have already gone instantly to Christ. When? At the moment of death or the rapture, whichever comes first.
I'm addressing those two categories.
Obviously, eternal life is for all who believe. At the end of the 1,000 year reign of Christ on earth, satan is loosed from his chains for a while, destroyed, cast into the lake of fire, along with his demon hordes. At that point eternal life is a given for all who believed. John 14:6. John 3:16-17. Romans 10:8-13. See how David phrases it in Psalm 86. Underline Psalm 86:11-12. Read it again. Pray it daily. Several times.

Oh, so what you really meant is anyone who does not subscribe to wacky dispensationalism endtimes teaching is wrong.

Why don't you address the point I brought up about your misuse of Rev. 3:20 and your view of God who is trying to save those who He knows won't be saved?

Additionally, a hymn can contain a central truth found in the Bible. How hard is that to understand?

Actually this is what I said:

Just because it's in a hymn doesn't mean it's Biblically true.

Not all hymns express correctly what the Bible teaches.

 

[HankD]

I despise that you prop up a God who tries His best to save those which He can't save.

That's an unfair statement (IMO).

God can save all or none or anything inbetween.

IMO, The real question is not "does man have choice" but "does God have choice"?

If He does, then can He give it to His creatures and/or His children?

If He can then He saves those who choose to be saved.

Or so He appears to command:

Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:​

HankD

 

[johnp.]

Hello HankD.

IMO, The real question is not "does man have choice" but "does God have choice"?

Of course He had.

If He does, then can He give it to His creatures and/or His children?

Now ask the first question again.

IMO, The real question is not "does man have choice" but "does God have choice"?

Not any more He don't. He just gave it away. So God isn't Sovereign man is. "You're be like God." Rings a bell.

If He can then He saves those who choose to be saved.

What do you mean 'if He can'? Is it because He is not Sovereign anymore that enfeebles God?

Or so He appears to command:

Responsibility and ability are not linked. We have no ability to do as He says. Unless a man is born again he cannot see or enter the Kingdom of God and this is a matter of now.

john.

 

[Isaiah40:28]

I despise that you prop up a God who tries His best to save those which He can't save.

That's an unfair statement (IMO).
God can save all or none or anything inbetween.

No, think about it. According to a non-Calvinist, God can only save those who He knows will be saved. He can't save people who don't choose Him.
And according to the same view, God seeks to save everyone without exception.

So what that leaves you with is a God who knowingly sets out to fail to convert people.

And that is a unBiblical view of redemption.

Either God is desperately working to save everyone despite knowing that He will fail in part OR God is not trying to save everyone, but only those who He knows will be saved, which means God is only interested in saving some and is knowingly letting those perish who will not be saved.