he wrote books oon this issue , so would be an expert!
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How is the KJV a Bible translation in any different sense than the NKJV is?
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Writing a book doesn't make you an "expert".....only gives you the opportunity to share YOUR viewpoint. If I go write a book on open heart surgery, can I operate on you? 
I repeat......
1.There's only so much to say on the subject....
2. Every argument has ALREADY BEEN posted over and over again......
3. After YEARS of "back and forth", nobody has changed their minds from either side that I know of........
4. All it does is cause hard feelings between fellow Christians, and that in itself, must grieve the Lord...
5. There are so many MORE IMPORTANT things for the cause of Christ that a Christian's time could be spent worrying about.
6. And the saddest part is that some people seem to be absolutely OBSESSED with it, spending the majority of their time posting about it, and that's not healthy. In fact, it's kinda weird. It's like the KJV issue has taken over their entire life.
JMHO.
1.There's only so much to say on the subject....
2. Every argument has ALREADY BEEN posted over and over again......
3. After YEARS of "back and forth", nobody has changed their minds from either side that I know of........
4. All it does is cause hard feelings between fellow Christians, and that in itself, must grieve the Lord...
5. There are so many MORE IMPORTANT things for the cause of Christ that a Christian's time could be spent worrying about.
6. And the saddest part is that some people seem to be absolutely OBSESSED with it, spending the majority of their time posting about it, and that's not healthy. In fact, it's kinda weird. It's like the KJV issue has taken over their entire life.
JMHO.
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the trouble is that the ardent Kjvo holders are fracturing the Church on just this siongle issue!
I hear that all the time and don't believe it for a second. Can you name me ONE church that split because of it? Just one. You guys continue to make this claim like it's a national epidemic or something. The only people I see arguing about it is YOU GUYS on these forums. And as I said SOME of you are making a career out of it! (Logos, for instance) It's like the NAACP keeping the "racism" belief alive, they don't want "racism" gone, because without "racism" they'd have nothing to do. Seems that's the same thing with the KJVO forums. Some of you wouldn't know what to do with yourselves if KJVOism wasn't (and it isn't) as big a problem as you all want it to be. My goodness, get a life people! I agree that there are KJVO churches, but every one I know states that in their bi-laws somewhere, so if you're not KJVO you can plainly see where they stand and you don't have to attend that church. I don't know of a single church that has "split"over the KJV issue. So quit promoting that "fake news".
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Well, when someone calls modern versions all demonic, inspired by satan, that God ONLY saves thru the Kjv, is that not pretty much idol worship of the Kjv?
Are you making a broad-sweeping over-generalization based on your own limited experience?
Because you do not know of one would not be proof that your claim that it is "fake news" is true.
Instead of proving your assumed accusation of "fake news" to be true, do you try to shift the burden of proof and demand that others prove your unproven claim wrong?
Instead of focusing on posting accurate information and facts and serious discussion, do you seem to be obsessed with attacking and judging the motives and intentions of believers when you do not know what they are?
Are you opposed to the repetition of the presenting of scriptural truths that relate to the important matter of Bible translation?
Every argument concerning every Bible doctrine may have been discussed over and over so are you suggesting that no topic related to the Bible should be presently discussed again?
Listen, logos, I won't play the 20 questions game with you and your ridiculous posts!! Numerous people on KJVO forums have made the claim that KJVOism has split churches. I DID NOT make that claim! I asked for ONE church that has been split. Just one. I'm still waiting, so you and your "questions" can take a hike, sir, because I find YOU highly annoying and frankly, weird........ creepy even. If I were your psychiatrist, I'd recommend you get something else to do in your life, because you have an unhealthy obsession with this topic. I wonder about your mental health, to be truthful.
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You did make the claim that it is "fake news", but you did not prove your own allegation to be true. You make the allegation that would in effect question the honesty and integrity of those who report what they know or have experienced.
I had a pastor who was pastoring in Michigan tell me firsthand that his church was split by KJV-onlyism. As I recall, a Sunday School teacher in his church started teaching KJV-only opinions, and the church ended up splitting over it. Around half the congregation ended up leaving the church to follow the KJV-only group.
I had another pastor wrote me and claim that my book helped prevent his church from splitting over KJV-onlyism.
A secular psychiatrist would probably claim that any doctrinally-sound believer has an unhealthy obsession with Christ and with the Bible, but that would not make him right.
You can consider defending sound Bible doctrine and answering non-scriptural, extra-biblical KJV-only teaching an obsession if that is what you choose to do but it does not mean that you are right. I am advocating stating the truth concerning the KJV and other English Bibles, and you indicate that you oppose that effort. You seem to assume that those who post incorrect claims concerning the KJV and other English Bibles should not be answered.
KJV-only advocates typically seem to assume that they are more spiritual and more sound in doctrine than any believer who disagrees with their unproven, non-scriptural KJV-only claims.
You fail to demonstrate that I am posting anything unsound and untrue so why do you seem obsessed in throwing out your unproven innuendos against a believer in God and in the Scriptures?
John D. Wright
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So your point is that 30% read the KJV and 70% read something else so the Holy Spirit prefers the KJV?
Maybe there are decisions that are affected by things other than the Holy Spirit.
I was once KJVO. Now the only time I use it is when I preach my monthly appointment at a church that is KJVO. If not for that, my KJV’s, which # in the teens(maybe 20’s), would be dust collectors.
Glad that you did not say that they would be in the trash, as some here would have had a seizure!
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In 1968 I bough my first Greek New Testament with apparatus. That made me realize that the KJV is more in tune with the common Greek New Testament text than the modern versions. I think KJV only-ism is as bad for the Christian as the modern versions. Both ends against the middle. One main advantage of the NKJV is its New Testament NU and M foot notes regarding variant readings. You do not need to be able to understand a Greek NT apparatus to use it. NU is for the so-called critical text. N for Nestle Aland and U for United Bible Society. M for the majority text.
One advantage of the KJV and some other translations which use old English, singular pronouns (thee, thou, and thine) you do not need to know the Greek or Hebrew behind the translation to know that it is singular or plural. Modern versions (NKJV) you have no way of knowing it.
One advantage of the KJV and some other translations which use old English, singular pronouns (thee, thou, and thine) you do not need to know the Greek or Hebrew behind the translation to know that it is singular or plural. Modern versions (NKJV) you have no way of knowing it.
Hark
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But are other modern Bibles keeping the truths as aligned with each other in scripture? No, but the KJV does.
Even the NKJV changed the message in 1 Corinthians 1:18 to "being saved" while KJV has it as "are saved" for me to rely on the KJV in the hopes that believers that err into thinking they are in the process of being saved will see the KJV testifying that they are saved.
It is in that changed message & others like it in other modern Bibles for why after a process of elimination, KJV wins for keeping the meat to discern good & evil by His words, but only the Lord had sown me that truth..
And yet the Kjv has also problem passages in it!
Hark
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Not for any changed message that would support a false teaching that a believer has gone astray by. You cannot say that for modern bibles.
Once again, NO doctrine is change to heresy by Nas/esv/Nkjv!
Hark
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We agree to disagree.
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