How many of you have kids or grandkids in the military . . .

[jaigner]

I will mention that I don't agree with every last thing about the Army or the politicians who run it - but overall we do a great job.

What about all the innocent people our military has slaughtered through the years? Do you regret any of that? Or do you not care, since they weren't the right color?

And what about all the American young people who have lost their lives because they're been places they never should have been fighting wars they never should have fought?

I'm not a straight pacifist, but much of what we call "war" is nothing more than organized, sanctioned murder. I'm not sure you can be "pro-life" while supporting the things our military has done in recent memory.

 

[jaigner]

The very people you apparently hate with every fiber of your being:

The men and women who, down through the years, many times through no choice of their own (Remember the draft?), served in our nation's armed forces!

Nobody hates them. I personally pray for the safety of the troops that they can come back safely, never have to take the life of another image-bearer, and find some peaceful occupation.

 

[Salty]

Yea, I conceede, the US miitarty has never saved the life of any civilian whose population has been cleansed by other countries or groups.

 

[Don]

What about all the innocent people our military has slaughtered through the years? Do you regret any of that? Or do you not care, since they weren't the right color?

And what about all the American young people who have lost their lives because they're been places they never should have been fighting wars they never should have fought?

I'm not a straight pacifist, but much of what we call "war" is nothing more than organized, sanctioned murder. I'm not sure you can be "pro-life" while supporting the things our military has done in recent memory.

You mean, like distributing food and necessities to Hurricane Sandy victims? Or collecting donations and food for needy families at Thanksgiving? Or starting the collections of toys and food for families for Christmas? Or Marines honoring a child cancer victim by making him an honorary Marine? Or assisting with searches for missing children? Or dying in plane crashes while helping fight wildfires?

 

[padredurand]

What about all the innocent people our military has slaughtered through the years?

Anything specific in mind or does hyperbole work for you?

Do you regret any of that? Or do you not care, since they weren't the right color?

What would be the wrong color? Here's an article on military demographics. It contains facts so you may want to avoid it.

And what about all the American young people who have lost their lives because they're been places they never should have been fighting wars they never should have fought?

Like the 3650 young Americans who had the audacity to invade Pearl Harbor, or the 241 who were asleep in their barracks in Lebanon, the 17 sailors on the USS Cole, victims of the Red Army Faction of Baader-Meinhof gang....

I'm not a straight pacifist, but much of what we call "war" is nothing more than organized, sanctioned murder. I'm not sure you can be "pro-life" while supporting the things our military has done in recent memory.

I often wonder of folks use the word pacifism when what is meant is they lack the moral courage to defend themselves and those they love at any cost. I'm going to go tell my son how proud I am of his service. The rest of you can go make sure the peace sign isn't peeling off your VW bus.

 

[saturneptune]

What about all the innocent people our military has slaughtered through the years?

You have a major misunderstanding about the nature of war. That is why it is a last resort. That is why Congress should declare war. That is why all other avenues, diplomatic, etc should be explored. That is why we do not go to war that does not effect the survival of this nation. However, when the decision is made to go to war, one goes in with everything they have, win a swift victory, and exit quickly. They can rebuild their own nation.

Once that point is reached, American lives trump innocent civilian lives. Wars cannot be fought based on a house by house map.

 

[billwald]

> . . . American lives trump innocent civilian lives.

NT chapter and verse?

Even guilty American lives?