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Diane, we do all these things in my church (except we have baptisms pretty regularly) and I don't consider praying the prayer Jesus told us to pray or singing "Glory be to the Father, and to the Son and to the Holy Ghost..." every week as "vain." I'd kind of like to know why you do.Originally posted by dianetavegia:
We were American Baptist then and it was very hard for me. (Not enough singing, preacher wore a robe, vain repetition as in Lord's Prayer, Gloria Patri every week, NEVER had a Baptism...)
Was your church from a Landmark background? Most Arkansas Baptists were, but I'm unaware of how much influence Landmarkism has continued to put on the Arkansas Baptist Convention.Originally posted by Rob Marus:
I grew up a sixth-generation Arkansas Southern Baptist
I am curious as to this affiliation, since a northern convention as we know it did not exist before 1907. Do you mean the local or state affiliation, or participating in the northern societies as well as the SBC, or do Baptists in the north consider affiliation differently? I would expect that your church would be one of very few that maintained a dual affiliation from the beginning (of the SBC). Any idea if there are/were others and how many?...and the church of which I am now a proud member (being located in the nation's capital and pre-dating the split between Northern and Southern Baptists) has since 1845 been affiliated with both the SBC and the American Baptist Churches.
Thanks!Originally posted by rlvaughn:
Rob, Welcome to the Baptist Board.I'm really proud that the Board has gained your notice and that you've signed on. May you have much Happy Posting; will be looking forward to your thoughts.![]()
To some extent, as the detritus of Landmarkism continues to exert an influence on the Arkansas Baptist State Convention (I believe their constitution to this day persists in containing a provision barring membership to churches that practice open communion). But the church I attend now when I am at home for visits (Pulaski Heights Baptist in Little Rock) definitely is not Landmarkist in its orientation (it's an old Charleston Tradition church).Was your church from a Landmark background? Most Arkansas Baptists were, but I'm unaware of how much influence Landmarkism has continued to put on the Arkansas Baptist Convention.
My church here in Washington did maintain dual affiliation with the SBC and the old Triennial Convention, which later morphed into the American Baptist Churches, with which my congregation has maintained fellowship for the last 201 years. There are as many as a dozen Baptist churches in the Washington area that maintain these dual affiliations, and several more in other border states (like Maryland, Kentucky and Missouri).I am curious as to this affiliation, since a northern convention as we know it did not exist before 1907. Do you mean the local or state affiliation, or participating in the northern societies as well as the SBC, or do Baptists in the north consider affiliation differently? I would expect that your church would be one of very few that maintained a dual affiliation from the beginning (of the SBC). Any idea if there are/were others and how many? [/QB]
Which strain of Southern Baptist history would that be? Regular or Separate? Particular or General? Charleston or Sandy Creek?Originally posted by Charlesga:
I am a member of a Southern Baptist church, been SBC all my life. But, don't like the new direction of the SBC. Don't know what the future holds, but probably would not attend a "hard line" SBC church.
For now, I'll consider myself a historical Southern Baptist.....