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Featured How much does a person need to know about Christ to be saved?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Guido, Apr 10, 2022.

  1. SavedByGrace

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    What you believe is what we call here in England CODSWALLOP
     
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    I won't sleep over eight hours tonight worrying about that.
     
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    Hope you don't have nightmares
     
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    You come on here pretending that you are not reformed or Calvinist, yet almost all you believe on salvation is what they teach, which is mostly error :eek:
     
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    1 Corinthians 15:2-4
    It is this Good News that saves you if you continue to believe the message I told you—unless, of course, you believed something that was never true in the first place. I passed on to you what was most important and what had also been passed on to me. Christ died for our sins, just as the Scriptures said. He was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day, just as the Scriptures said.
     
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    One must be known of Christ. That is all that is needed to be saved.

    But if one simply believes, then yes, he is saved. Isn't that the greatest news in the whole world?
     
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    You'd better hope it's true, because if assurance rests on your own faithfulness, you're doomed.
     
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    You seem to have an unBiblical view of repentance. Like the Churches of Christ or Mormonism. A Belief before a repentance.
    Now Biblical repentance is prior to faith, Mark 1:15, ". . . repent ye, and believe . . . ."
     
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    Romans 10:5-13 [NASB95]
    5 For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness. 6 But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: "DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, 'WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?' (that is, to bring Christ down), 7 or 'WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?' (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead)." 8 But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART"--that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus [as] Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same [Lord] is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."
     
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    My Calvinist brothers and Sisters are Monergists, like me.

    Synergism: the doctrine that the human will cooperates with the Holy Ghost in the work of regeneration.

    Monergism: the doctrine that the Holy Ghost acts independently of the human will in the work of regeneration.

    We have a whole lot in common.
     
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    Synergism=Biblical

    Monergism=man-made ERROR

    Simple!
     
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    but they could be WRONG! It is what the Bible says that is important, and not just because someone is a believer for many years.
     
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    Repentance is an aspect of faith or believing (it speaks of turning from one thing while belief points towards turning to something).

    There is no belief without repentance, except maybe mere cognitive acceptance (and this is questionable).

    If I believe in Christ's name then I repent from believing in my own. If I believed water is dry, come to believe it is wet, then I repent from believing it is dry.
     
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    The concept that we must believe the "right" things to be saved is false doctrine. We can believe wrong things about Jesus and still be saved, because it is God alone who decides whether to credit our faith, as flawed as it may be, as righteousness. Salvation does not depend upon the person who wills to be saved or does works to be saved, but upon God.
     
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    No sinner is able to repent or believe on their own. This is an impossibility. It is only after the conviction by the Holy Spirit in the sinners heart, of their sins and need for the Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ, that they can either accept or reject
     
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    Believing in Christ is more than accepting that there was a man called Jesus of Nazareth who lived a long time ago and did a lot of good stuff. It is more than believing that He is the Son of God. It is understanding that one is a sinner, under the just condemnation of God, repenting of those sins and trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation.
    If you are trusting in Christ for salvation, you may get a lot of other stuff wrong, but the only other important question is what else you are trusting in. Baptism? Mass? Mum and Dad being Christians? Your generous giving? Church activities? Your election? Any of these can sink you without trace if you are relying on them to get you into heaven.

    On Christ the solid Rock I stand;
    ALL other ground is sinking sand.
     
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    And that understanding only comes via the Holy Spirit!
     
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    When believing in Christ, it is necessary to believe in Him without trusting in your works to save you. Otherwise your faith is not saving faith.
     
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