How Other People Worship

[church mouse guy]

There is that priority that some have.

Just so the casual reader it is true and certain that a faithful servant of the Lord must bring honor to God by the complete devotion of our whole heart, mind, soul, strength, in all our ways acknowledging Him, or there is a problem in submission to the Master.

The deacons and elders (pastors) of the assembly are to emulate such before all, in all places, at all times.

I agree. The laity must abide by the rules, too. There is no need for this 24/7 lifestyle. There are times and places....

The rich are strange anymore. They like to dress like the homeless but want to be treated as if they were billionaires. They take their children out in public and let them run wild just like the poor do.

 

[Aaron]

"Missional"

The author just capitulated.

 

[John I Morris]

Any "worship" that brings God down to mans level is WRONG! I don't care what the excuse, it's WRONG! God is so far above us, He is holy, holy, holy!! So, if your goal is to make God like man, you are so far off the right track that you may never find your way back.

 

[agedman]

Any "worship" that brings God down to mans level is WRONG! I don't care what the excuse, it's WRONG! God is so far above us, He is holy, holy, holy!! So, if your goal is to make God like man, you are so far off the right track that you may never find your way back.

Very good.

2 Corinthians 5 gives this theme of in the world to teach of God bonging reconciliation.

However, God did not reconcile Himself to humankind, rather the reconciliation os man to God.

How dare folks bring the world into such a presentation at any point.

The whole ministry of the Saints is to bring unbelievers to God.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Would that much was geared toward memorizing Scripture, quoting Scriptures, rather than singing so much.

But that is pure opinion.

The Welsh revivals started in singing.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Very good.

2 Corinthians 5 gives this theme of in the world to teach of God bonging reconciliation.

However, God did not reconcile Himself to humankind, rather the reconciliation os man to God.

How dare folks bring the world into such a presentation at any point.

The whole ministry of the Saints is to bring unbelievers to God.

Sorry but isn’t it The Holy Spirit that brings people to God.

 

[Marooncat79]

Consider the liturgy or order-of-worship (they are the same exact thing) from a Reformed Baptist Church I was a member of:

Greeting

Hymn #1

Hymn #2

Call to Worship (reading from the Psalms)

Hymn #3

Pastoral Prayer

Reading and Commentary

Prayer of Confession and Thanksgiving for Pardon

Offering

Lord's Supper

Sermon

Song of Response (Note: the song of response was not an altar call)

Is this liturgy unbiblical? It emphasizes reading the word, singing the word, declaring the word, and prayer. We also celebrated the Lord's Supper weekly. The only thing we should be concerned about when it comes to worship is whether what we are doing is biblical.

Sounds like one of tge churches I have pastored. Indianapolis

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Sounds like one of tge churches I have pastored. Indianapolis

Tge??? What’s that?

 

[church mouse guy]

Sounds like one of tge churches I have pastored. Indianapolis

Are you saying that a routine is a liturgy?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

And then there's the Russian\Slavic Baptist Order of service:

A typical Sunday (morning or evening) service goes something like this:
a. the Pastor or his designee calls the service to order and gives the Invocation.
b. a choir number
c. congregational hymn
d. the first preacher (the Pastor or the man in charge of the service has previously designated which of the preachers in the church will be speaking at a given service and in what order <Nezavisimaya has +/-12 preachers>) speaks usually for 10-15 minutes.
This message is usually a Call to Worship or Prayer
e. congregational prayer (three maybe four men or women lead in prayer from their places in the meeting hall, with the preacher closing). This is a time of Thanksgiving for the God's provision in the last week. The preacher closes with a prayer for God s blessing on the coming service.
f. a congregational hymn
g. a senior choir number or
h. a children's choir or
i. a recitation of Christian poetry or song by an individual or group
j. the second preacher speaks (see d. above). This preacher brings a strong Bible Message for 20-25 minutes.
k. repeat f-i.
l. the third preacher speaks (usually at Nezavisimaya this is Pastor Gregorov). This man ties the two previous speakers together. (Or he may launch off on his own message.)
m. see e. above
n. congregational hymn and offering
o. greetings from various churches
p. prayer requests are taken and final prayer two+ hours later.
​

 

[Marooncat79]

Are you saying that a routine is a liturgy?

Basically yes

All churches have a liturgy

Some are slightly different each week but yea All churches have them

Sometimes we do responsive readings
Sometimes we recite the Apostles Creed. I am sure that one will raise questions. Lol

 

[church mouse guy]

All churches have a liturgy

Some are slightly different each week but yea All churches have them

Sometimes we do responsive readings
Sometimes we recite the Apostles Creed. I am sure that one will raise questions. Lol

I think that liturgy says the same thing every time.

 

[agedman]

Sorry but isn’t it The Holy Spirit that brings people to God.

Certainly.

I apologize that the messages have become garbled to the point they are hard for me to even discern them.

I was attempting to restate that God does the work of reconciliation.

He established the way of reconciliation.

Here is what I wrote and what I should have written:

Very good.

2 Corinthians 5 gives this theme of in the world to teach of God bonging reconciliation.

However, God did not reconcile Himself to humankind, rather the reconciliation os man to God.

How dare folks bring the world into such a presentation at any point.

The whole ministry of the Saints is to bring unbelievers to God.

2 Corinthians 5 gives this theme - believers are in the world to teach (that) God bringing (better has brought, brings) reconciliation.

However, God did not reconcile Himself to humankind, rather the reconciliation is (one directional) - man is reconciled to God.

The ministry of the Saints is to bring unbelievers to God (by being “...Witnesses, teaching them all things, baptizing them ...”).

 

[JonC]

Why Is It Your Business How Other People Worship?

Perhaps Paul's words apply.

Romans 14:4 Who are you to judge the servant a of another? To his own master b he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

 

[Marooncat79]

What about Nadab and Abihu?

Did God care what they did in regards to worship?

What about Saul when he offered the evening sacrafice only to be rebuked by Samuel? Did God care then? Obedience is better than sacrafice

Jesus said those who worship God must worship Him in Truth and in Spirit. John 4:24?