Huckabee: If Court Rules Gay Marriage a ‘Civil Right,’ Pastors Must Comply or They’ll

[Revmitchell]

I would also add that being incorporated in no way holds the church back from following biblical principles or scriptural mandates. That is the fallacy.

 

[JonC]

Would limiting services to members of the church help?....or would limiting membership itself be considered illegal?

 

[Revmitchell]

Would limiting services to members of the church help?....or would limiting membership itself be considered illegal?

Most churches do limit services to members only. The problem will arise when we will not let members be homosexuals. In other words open and active homosexuals will be refused membership as usual. Then we will have those who come into the church that will not reveal they are gay until after receiving membership and then cry fowl when they are disfellowshiped.

During arguments made at the SC Roberts asked the folks from the admin how it would effect the churches if the court ruled in favor of a right to homosexual marriage. The attorney fro the admin tried to ignore the question and then Roberts pressed him further (should have scolded him) his answer was yes that will be an issue.

 

[JonC]

Most churches do limit services to members only. The problem will arise when we will not let members be homosexuals. In other words open and active homosexuals will be refused membership as usual. Then we will have those who come into the church that will not reveal they are gay until after receiving membership and then cry fowl when they are disfellowshiped.

During arguments made at the SC Roberts asked the folks from the admin how it would effect the churches if the court ruled in favor of a right to homosexual marriage. The attorney fro the admin tried to ignore the question and then Roberts pressed him further (should have scolded him) his answer was yes that will be an issue.

Thanks for the information. In a way, it would be refreshing for the church to take a stand that carried consequences.

 

[Br. Dan]

This is just not correct. I'm sorry:

No need to be sorry, you are entitled to your opinion, it's no skin off my nose. I thought this was a gentlemen's conversation. I pray
that no church members ever have to find out the hard way. I hope these issues are resolved and churches are given a pass.

You Want Protection From Personal Liability for the Group's Activities
If your group finds itself the target of a lawsuit, incorporation can provide welcome peace of mind. Nonprofit corporations can be sued -- but their members and directors are generally protected from personal liability, meaning that their own money, houses, cars, or other property isn't at risk. That's not true of an unincorporated association.

Notice the disclaimer "generally protected"? In other words, not always. Yes you are correct to assume that many times the lawsuit will only go after the corporation, it is generally an easier target and generally has deeper pockets. However, that is generally only the case of an individual or group of individuals bringing suit against a corporation. As many corporate leaders have learned the hard way, that is just not always the case when a government agency is bringing the suit. I gave two examples (a non-profit and a for profit) of corporate leaders serving jail time and forfeiting personal property. So to arbitrarily declare that my argument is just not true, seems to me a logical fallacy. However, I hope we never have to find out which of us stands correct on the issue.

 

[Livingnow]

We are working on rewriting our bylaws to reflect our beliefs regarding marriage and who we will and won't marry. One rule is that it must be a couple where at least one of them are a member of our church and that the pastor has the discretion to refuse a wedding for any reason (hey, we won't marry a couple that is not ready to marry even if they are a man and a woman). It might not protect us forever but it is at least a bit of a safety for now!

It's inconceivable that a pastor would keep on marrying people who are not member of his church. Both may not, but a least one of them has to be a member. Well, we're moving into perilous time. We're witnessing how Satan is using those in high position in order to advance his destructive agenda. The problem is that as we're moving toward the end, we as Bible believing Christian will certainly find ourselves in a much tougher position with this issue because we don't have that many officials that we can rely on in order to fight for us. We're now at a point whenever this issue makes it to the court, it's more likely to win.