HUD threatens Galveston with loss of funds

[freeatlast]

Here is more evidence of our corrupt Federal government rejecting the constitution of states rights as they continue to build for a total take over. If our young men and women in the military do not wake up soon it will be too late...
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/HUD-threatens-Galveston-with-loss-of-funds-3682674.php

 

[Don]

Okay, I don't get your message here at all. The new mayor during his campaign said he wouldn't allow this--and got elected. Did he get elected on the promise that he would get them one-for-one vouchers, which the government is now saying they won't do? If so, it's a broken campaign promise, and the people of Galveston ought to have some recourse--such as a recall vote--to hold him accountable.

But how in the world are you tying this to the military?!?

 

[freeatlast]

Okay, I don't get your message here at all. The new mayor during his campaign said he wouldn't allow this--and got elected. Did he get elected on the promise that he would get them one-for-one vouchers, which the government is now saying they won't do? If so, it's a broken campaign promise, and the people of Galveston ought to have some recourse--such as a recall vote--to hold him accountable.

But how in the world are you tying this to the military?!?

Our young men and women are dying in other countries while the government spends billions to build those countries claiming to set them free from evil governments and it is said to be for our freedoms while the government all the time is stripping away our constitutional rights. The military needs to wake up and see that they are being used while the federal government destroys our own constitution not protect it.

 

[targus]

Our young men and women are dying in other countries while the government spends billions to build those countries claiming to set them free from evil governments and it is said to be for our freedoms while the government all the time is stripping away our constitutional rights. The military needs to wake up and see that they are being used while the federal government destroys our own constitution not protect it.

What do you want the "brainwashed" military to do about the out of control government?

 

[freeatlast]

What do you want the "brainwashed" military to do about the out of control government?

Speak up about the evil the government is doing, stop enlisting and quit the military.Become John the Baptist's instead of brainwashed pawns that are helping the government carry out this stripping away of liberty..

 

[targus]

Speak up about the evil the government is doing, stop enlisting and quit the military.Become John the Baptist's instead of brainwashed pawns that are helping the government carry out this stripping away of liberty..

Exactly what liberty is being threatened in the article that you posted.

HUD isn't going to give the city to build buildings if the city won't use the money to actually build the buildings.

Are you daffy or what?

You personally feel that your liberties are threatened because the federal government won't give Galveston money?

There just has to be two different people posting under freeatlast's account...

Or else there is a much much more serious problem here.

 

[freeatlast]

Exactly what liberty is being threatened in the article that you posted.

HUD isn't going to give the city to build buildings if the city won't use the money to actually build the buildings.

Are you daffy or what?

You personally feel that your liberties are threatened because the federal government won't give Galveston money?

There just has to be two different people posting under freeatlast's account...

Or else there is a much much more serious problem here.

Read the article. The Feds are is threatening them trying to make them build the buildings. This is a state issue not a Federal issue. That is government stripping away the liberties of the states. The Gestapo tactics you are defending.

 

[targus]

Read the article. The Feds are is threatening them trying to make them build the buildings. This is a state issue not a Federal issue. That is government stripping away the liberties of the states. The Gestapo tactics you are defending.

It is a federal issue when you take federal money.

If they want the money then they have to use the money for the purpose that it is being given.

What is so hard to understand?

And am I speaking with "FAL1" or "FAL2" ?

 

[freeatlast]

It is a federal issue when you take federal money.

If they want the money then they have to use the money for the purpose that it is being given.

What is so hard to understand?

And am I speaking with "FAL1" or "FAL2" ?

No the money was to help restore the city from the damage from the hurricane. There was no ground rules as how and where to use it. Now the Feds want to attach strings and are doing so with threats of losing other money is not done their way. If there had been ground rules and then not followed then repayment would be in order, not trying to force them to do their will with other threats. This is a state issue not a federal one. If they had just asked for the money back that would be fine, but they have no right to demand how it is used and then try and force that on the state.

 

[targus]

No the money was to help restore the city from the damage from the hurricane. There was no ground rules as how and where to use it.

You need to read the article with more care.

 

[freeatlast]

You need to read the article with more care.

I have re-read it and I still do not see where there was an agreement to replace those units. If there was all that needs to be done is return the money, not try and force them to build.

 

[InTheLight]

Here is more evidence of our corrupt Federal government rejecting the constitution of states rights as they continue to build for a total take over. If our young men and women in the military do not wake up soon it will be too late...
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/HUD-threatens-Galveston-with-loss-of-funds-3682674.php

I think you need to take a vacation from BB.

This money was part of an earmark that Ron Paul applied for and received to rebuild public housing destroyed by hurricane Ike. The money is earmarked for rebuilding the public housing.

So here comes the new mayor who ran on a campaign promise of NOT rebuilding the low income housing, essentially flaunting the legislative process of acquiring federal funds. Instead he wants to sell the land to a private developer. (How much you wanna bet the developer is a campaign contributor to the Mayor?)

Bringing the military into this is a total non sequitur.

Take a rest. You are averaging over 40 posts per day. Go outside.

 

[freeatlast]

I think you need to take a vacation from BB.

This money was part of an earmark that Ron Paul applied for and received to rebuild public housing destroyed by hurricane Ike. The money is earmarked for rebuilding the public housing.

So here comes the new mayor who ran on a campaign promise of NOT rebuilding the low income housing, essentially flaunting the legislative process of acquiring federal funds. Instead he wants to sell the land to a private developer. (How much you wanna bet the developer is a campaign contributor to the Mayor?)

Bringing the military into this is a total non sequitur.

Take a rest. You are averaging over 40 posts per day. Go outside.

If the money had conditions on it and they took it all they only need to return what was not used as agreed. other wise this is another attempt of the Federal government to strip away states rights and our individual liberties. The reason you and your friends want this silenced is so the Gestapo government which you are supporting and defending can continue on in their evil.

 

[InTheLight]

If the money had conditions on it and they took it all they only need to return what was not used as agreed.

The agreement was to rebuild the housing. There is no 'giving back' the money.

other wise this is another attempt of the Federal government to strip away states rights and our individual liberties.

Scenario.

HUD: "Here is the $569 million that Ron Paul applied for and received to rebuild the housing damaged by hurricane Ike."

Mayor: "We'll take the money and rebuild the housing."

New Mayor: "I've decided we don't want to rebuild the housing."

HUD: "The law says you must rebuild the housing. We have an agreement with your city to rebuild the housing. If you don't rebuild the housing we might withhold other funds meant to assist Galveston in recovering from Ike."

The reason you and your friends want this silenced is so the Gestapo government which you are supporting and defending can continue on in their evil.

What do I want silenced? What is evil about wanting a mayor to honor an agreement?

Take a break. Go outside. Get some fresh air. Get some sunshine.

 

[Don]

ITL, the only thing I might differ with you on is: the new mayor's not saying "don't build the housing." He's espousing that they allow a private contractor to do it. But in that part, I agree with an earlier comment that there was probably an agreement between the new mayor and the private contractor.

So the corruption here seems to be more about a new mayor who made individual agreements to help get himself elected, than anything about the federal government who said "we'll give you federal money based on these guidelines" and a new mayor that wants to change the agreement.

And I still have no idea why the military even enters into this situation. I don't see any connection to the military being cheated out of housing; I don't see how the military would be used in any way to force Galveston to continue building the housing the way HUD originally agreed to help; and to say that military members need to pay attention to a "heavy-handed government saying 'do it our way'" is totally missing the point that the new mayor is the one changing the agreement, and doesn't involve the military in any way whatsoever.

So the military comment was merely an opportunistic slam against our young uniformed service members.

 

[InTheLight]

ITL, the only thing I might differ with you on is: the new mayor's not saying "don't build the housing." He's espousing that they allow a private contractor to do it.

Actually the article says that the mayor wanted to stop building the public housing and sell the land to a private developer. I'm guessing the private developer would not want to build low income housing.

And I still have no idea why the military even enters into this situation. I don't see any connection to the military being cheated out of housing; I don't see how the military would be used in any way to force Galveston to continue building the housing the way HUD originally agreed to help; and to say that military members need to pay attention to a "heavy-handed government saying 'do it our way'" is totally missing the point that the new mayor is the one changing the agreement, and doesn't involve the military in any way whatsoever. So the military comment was merely an opportunistic slam against our young uniformed service members.

Totally agree with you. I also don't see where the Gestapo is involved. :laugh: