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saturneptune said:Read the post. I didnt answer the question. You did. Those who have seen war realize it is not a game for you to enjoy your flag waving jollies. I will tell you like hillclimber, if you are so hot to trot to sacrifice more american lives, why dont you join up, lead the charge, instead of typing on a computer and eating bon bons.
Yes, it is their duty, their sacrifice, not yours. All you can do is talk.Gershom said:Your presumption that I perceive war as a game for my "flag waving jollies" only reveals your ignorance. I don't perceive our troops as "sacrifices" in the sense that so many people use for their propaganda. US soldiers are called to war. That is their duty. If you don't like it, too bad.
November 15, 2005 depending on your definition of chemical weapon.Bro. James Reed said:When's the last time the U.S. government used Chemical weapons on entire cities just for the fun of it?
Not sure about the frequency.How often do our troops go out and intentionally target civilians?
Saddam Hussein kills a bunch of Kurds and he is considered to be the devil. George W Bush kills a bunch of Iraqis in order to get rid of Saddam Hussein and yet it's moronic to compare the two?War is war; unfortunately, innocent people are killed. Perhaps this is a stupid war, perhaps it was an unnecessary war, perhaps we collected faulty intelligence leading up the war, but equating GWBush with Saddam Hussein is moronic.
Heinous weapons, murder, torture...I don't like the way we fight.If intelligent people can not see that there is a difference between the way we fight and deal with US citizens and the way Saddam fought and dealt with Iraqi citizens, then they either have blinders on or are lying to themselves and others.
This is unique in that we were fighting this war to liberate the people we are killing.If any leader is equated with Saddam Hussein based solely on civilian casualties inflicted during war, then every leader in history who was involved in war must be equated with Hussein. Every war has civilian casualties.
Certainly he would. He dropped two nuclear war heads on a whole bunch of non-military targets including many Christians.I suppose Harry Truman would be way up on the list (worse than Saddam?) because of the number of civilians killed by the A-bombs.
Abe Lincoln is the man who turned America from a republic into an empire and yes he has the blood of many Americans on his hands as well.How about Abe Lincoln? How many civilians died on his watch? How about George Washington? Andy Jackson (who executed Indians, civilians, and his own men)?
When did you see Hussein taking pleasure when he did these deeds? When would we see Bush? I don't care about their emotions, I care about their deeds. Hussein killed people, Bush killed and is killing people and a whole bunch of those folks are women and children.I would not equate any of these men with Hussein and neither will I with GW Bush. Hussein took pleasure in seeing innocents slaughtered. I don't see that in GWBush. Do you?
Rufus_1611 said:You may have the right but it is a pretty idiot thing to say, if you don't mind me exercising my right.
Rufus_1611 said:What do you believe the number is of innocent civilians, including women and children, who have been shocked and awed to death by the U.S. Gov't? What is the number of deaths that will cause you to believe that the U.S. gov't is on par or lesser than Saddams regime?
In whatever capacity you desire. I'm not sure of your meaning in the use of this word.Gershom said:In what capacity?
saturneptune said:Yes, it is their duty, their sacrifice, not yours. All you can do is talk.
A faulty analogy. There are lots of people serving on active duty in Iraq in their 50s, so why dont you join and lead the charge. Not knowing what your previous service is, there is no way to make a comment.Gershom said:The pot calling the kettle "black."
Rufus_1611 said:In whatever capacity you desire. I'm not sure of your meaning in the use of this word.