loving2daysyouth
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Well, that's neither here nor there, a Pastor shouldn't be attacked for his stance, but his doctrine!
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Hyles Anderson College
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You get the same beliefs out of the KJV as any other baptists. You folks gotta remember that if a church is kjo, they still believe salvation by grace etc. It is not a doctrinal iossue. It is preference. Many make such a big deal out of it because they feel they have to defend themselves. Say what you will. The kjv is still the best preserved translation in our language.
4His_glory
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Au contraire,
When you say that the KJV is "God's preserved Word for the English speaking people" and that all other versions are a unmentional word in this forum, you have made it a doctrine.
When you call thoes who use other versions "heretics" and seperate from them, you have made it a doctrine.
When you say that KJVO is a matter of faith and you question the faith of thoses who disagree with you, you are makeing it a doctrine.
When you like Jack Hyles did, claim that a person can only be save from the KJV you have added to the Gospel of Christ and have created your own doctrine.
Pastor_Bob
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No, you merely state an opinion.
No, you simply demonstrate a lack of compassion and forfeit any opportunity to minister to them. Still, it is no doctrine.
No, you simply demonstrate a lack of discernment. Again, forfeiting the opportunity to minister. Still, no doctrine.
I agree, this is false doctrine.
No, you merely state an opinion.
No, you simply demonstrate a lack of compassion and forfeit any opportunity to minister to them. Still, it is no doctrine.
No, you simply demonstrate a lack of discernment. Again, forfeiting the opportunity to minister. Still, no doctrine.
I agree, this is false doctrine. </font>[/QUOTE]And yet, Hyles Anderson apparently does consider their position in regards to the KJV as a matter of doctrine. Otherwise, why would they include mention of the TR and the KJV in their "Doctrinal Statement"? (Current College Catalog, p. 5):
http://www.hylesanderson.com/haccatalog2004-2005.pdf
I Am Blessed 24
Active Member
Their TR merely states:
It does NOT say all others are exluded...
It does NOT say all others are exluded...
</font>[/QUOTE]Their Doctrinal Statement doesn't have to. By nature; and by definition; a Doctrinal Statement is a proactive listing of a group's non-negotiable, foundational, core beliefs. HAC's statement doesn't specifically exclude the Koran either; but its mere lack of inclusion is indicative of its exclusion. To say that one accepts the TR in a proactive sense is a defacto disavowal of any other MSS. In addition, since accepting the TR could potentially permit acceptance of the NKJV as well as the KJV- the HAC statement takes it one step furthur to proactively mention the KJV only; to the exclusion of the NKJV.
Pastor_Bob
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This is off topic I realize, but the above post prompted me to share this with you. My oldest son is 21 years old. He and I are the same height but I have about 40 lbs on him.
We are going to Lamberts "The Home of the Throwed Rolls" in Springfield, MO on Saturday to meet his fiancé’s parents. He came home from work last night and asked me if I wanted to go outside and play some basketball. I jokingly replied, "Son, you know you can't take me." He kind of snickered so I added, "I'll tell you what, I'll play you and the loser has to pay for dinner at Lamberts." He readily agreed and we went outside and played 1-on-1 to 11, win by 2.
After about 30 minutes of basketball, several things were happening all at once. I was breathing very hard, the basketball court was spinning in circles, my 11 year-old daughter Amy was running to the house yelling, "Mommy, Daddy just beat Bobby!" The final score was 12 to 10.
Of course, we do not gamble in our home, so I am still paying for dinner tomorrow night.
Okay, back to the original topic.
We are going to Lamberts "The Home of the Throwed Rolls" in Springfield, MO on Saturday to meet his fiancé’s parents. He came home from work last night and asked me if I wanted to go outside and play some basketball. I jokingly replied, "Son, you know you can't take me." He kind of snickered so I added, "I'll tell you what, I'll play you and the loser has to pay for dinner at Lamberts." He readily agreed and we went outside and played 1-on-1 to 11, win by 2.
After about 30 minutes of basketball, several things were happening all at once. I was breathing very hard, the basketball court was spinning in circles, my 11 year-old daughter Amy was running to the house yelling, "Mommy, Daddy just beat Bobby!" The final score was 12 to 10.
Of course, we do not gamble in our home, so I am still paying for dinner tomorrow night.
Okay, back to the original topic.
I Am Blessed 24
Active Member
Don't DO that to me! I thought the next words were going to be, "...is having a heart attack!".
And you wonder why my hair is turning gray!
Posted by 4His_glory: When you say that the KJV is "God's preserved Word for the English speaking people" and that all other versions are a unmentional word in this forum, you have made it a doctrine.
I never said anything about the other versions. Why put words in my mouth?
Posted by 4His_glory:When you call thoes who use other versions "heretics" and seperate from them, you have made it a doctrine.
You keep saying "you". I didn't say any of that. I say to grab the version you trust the most and ride it out and hope you are right. I prefer the KJV.
Posted by 4His_glory:When you say that KJVO is a matter of faith and you question the faith of thoses who disagree with you, you are makeing it a doctrine.
I dont question the faith of anybody. I have enough to do with taking care of my own family. Do as you will and read a comic book for what it's worth.
Posted by 4His_glory:When you like Jack Hyles did, claim that a person can only be save from the KJV you have added to the Gospel of Christ and have created your own doctrine.
He was obviously wrong. Salvation is present in most versions'.
It is ok that you used my post to vent. However I still believe the KJV to be the best version. It's doctrines are intact as God preserved them. Other versions? I don't care. Use one if you will but there is nothing wrong with the KJV.
I never said anything about the other versions. Why put words in my mouth?
Posted by 4His_glory:When you call thoes who use other versions "heretics" and seperate from them, you have made it a doctrine.
You keep saying "you". I didn't say any of that. I say to grab the version you trust the most and ride it out and hope you are right. I prefer the KJV.
Posted by 4His_glory:When you say that KJVO is a matter of faith and you question the faith of thoses who disagree with you, you are makeing it a doctrine.
I dont question the faith of anybody. I have enough to do with taking care of my own family. Do as you will and read a comic book for what it's worth.
Posted by 4His_glory:When you like Jack Hyles did, claim that a person can only be save from the KJV you have added to the Gospel of Christ and have created your own doctrine.
He was obviously wrong. Salvation is present in most versions'.
It is ok that you used my post to vent. However I still believe the KJV to be the best version. It's doctrines are intact as God preserved them. Other versions? I don't care. Use one if you will but there is nothing wrong with the KJV.