hypothetically--how would salvation work in someone with multiple personalities?

[evenifigoalone]

I'm kind of doubtful that insanity is real. Someone and his shrink might believe he has multiple personalities, but I believe he only has one. He has created imaginary people in his head, but there's only one real person. He might attribute his thoughts to those imaginary people, as voices, but they're still his thoughts.

Try blacking out for days and finding stuff you did that you don't remember doing. One minute you were watching TV and the next you find yourself in the middle of the street, and apparently three days have passed. Imagine one of your other personalities writing to you in a journal, that you know you didn't write. This is the kind of stuff that happens with DID.

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[agedman]

Even physical illnesses are indicated in scripture as sometimes being a spiritual issue (when it states that some were weak and sickly due to taking communion while unworthy). I don't believe it always is. I think it's the same with mental illness. Our bodies and brains are complex and there is much that can go wrong with them.

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Certainly. There is always rebuke in the flesh for sin. The ultimate rebuke is death.

The first time I held a brain, I was somewhat in awe. I held what was in essence the sum of nature. The thinking mechanism for decisions.

Yet, no matter the tool, such was never retrievable.

Then I sit and recall the records of heaven that are opened and all are judged from the books concerning all they did, thought, motives, intents... it is all written in the books.

Good thing time is no more, someone might loose interest.

 

[evenifigoalone]

Medication can mask a spiritual batttle.

I got through my addiction and depression entirely without medication or professional help of any sort. In my case, the depression was a direct result of the addiction, which created an imbalance as my brain only produced dopamine when indulging in the object of my addiction. Once I escaped the addiction it took a long time for imbalance to right itself, but it eventually did.

I do take meds for my OCD and social anxiety, and have been for nearly two years. I'm not sorry, and I won't stop.

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[agedman]

Try blacking out for days and finding stuff you did that you don't remember doing. One minute you were watching TV and the next you find yourself in the middle of the street, and apparently three days have passed. Imagine one of your other personalities writing to you in a journal, that you know you didn't write. This is the kind of stuff that happens with DID.

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One of the forgotten of the past is keeping a personal journal.

I was never good at it. Would want anyone reading it. Wouldn’t want the shame and failures to be exposed more then they were.

 

[agedman]

I got through my addiction and depression entirely without medication or professional help of any sort. In my case, the depression was a direct result of the addiction, which created an imbalance as my brain only produced dopamine when indulging in the object of my addiction. Once I escaped the addiction it took a long time for imbalance to right itself, but it eventually did.

I do take meds for my OCD and social anxiety, and have been for nearly two years. I'm not sorry, and I won't stop.

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OCD is tough.

Folks think that cognitive behavioral therapy can cure it, but it at best can mask one manifestation and another will pop up.

 

[Reynolds]

Not certain this passage supports what you desire.

I don’t see “fear” presented. Did I miss it? Perhaps it is a different definition needed?

5For I am mindful of the sincere faith within you, which first dwelt in your grandmother Lois and your mother Eunice, and I am sure that it is in you as well. 6For this reason I remind you to kindle afresh the gift of God which is in you through the laying on of my hands. 7For God has not given us a spirit of timidity, but of power and love and discipline.

8Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony of our Lord or of me His prisoner, but join with me in suffering for the gospel according to the power of God, 9who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity, 10but now has been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Christ Jesus, who abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel, 11for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle and a teacher.​

In most translations, you see "fear".

 

[Reynolds]

I got through my addiction and depression entirely without medication or professional help of any sort. In my case, the depression was a direct result of the addiction, which created an imbalance as my brain only produced dopamine when indulging in the object of my addiction. Once I escaped the addiction it took a long time for imbalance to right itself, but it eventually did.

I do take meds for my OCD and social anxiety, and have been for nearly two years. I'm not sorry, and I won't stop.

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I dont recall telling you to stop.

 

[agedman]

In most translations, you see "fear".

Ok I see it. Thanks.
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[agedman]

I was watching videos by people with DID (Dissasociative Identity Disorder), which was formerly known as Multiple Personality Disorder, and they described their personalities as being basically, different people from themselves. Each personality had it's own set of memories that were not shared with the other personalities, and could act independently of each other--when one personality takes control, the main personality will not remember anything from the time the other personality took over. (The personalities form as a result of severe trauma at a young age, basically the child's brain creates different personalities to cope with severe abuse.)

Many psychiatrists are skeptical that the disorder is even real, and not all of them agree that individuals with DID actually have different personalities.

But if they are different personalities, they specified that the personalities can even follow different religions from each other. If that's the case, how do you think salvation would work? If one personality was saved, would the other personalities be saved by default, or?

I wanted to get back to the OP. I want to present my opinion.

The most protective of the personalities would be the most aggressively protective. So even the conviction of sin by the
Holy Spirit would cause the retreat into this personality.

Scripturally, (again, imo) Saul became somewhat DID when the evil spirit was upon him. Music was the therapy choice, but that didn’t ultimately work.

In my opinion, redemption will bring unity of the person into a single focused mind in which they are completely aware of all the personalities and the actions.

 

[canadyjd]

OCD is tough

It isn’t OCD, not really.

It’s CDO, because everything has to be in alphabetical order.....

Don’t worry, you’ll get it later and think it’s funny.

I’ve heard people argue that mentally ill or mentally challenged folks fall in the same category as children when it comes to salvation.

I’m not sure. I certainly don’t believe each personality is judged separately with some going to heaven and others to hell. That would make the resurrection particularly problematic.

Peace to you

 

[Shoostie]

Try blacking out for days and finding stuff you did that you don't remember doing. One minute you were watching TV and the next you find yourself in the middle of the street, and apparently three days have passed. Imagine one of your other personalities writing to you in a journal, that you know you didn't write. This is the kind of stuff that happens with DID.

That's movies, not reality.

 

[agedman]

That's movies, not reality.

Actually, it is. It is rare, but does certainly happen.

If it can happen with an alcoholic (and it does) it certainly can with sever mental issues.

But like I said, it is rare.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I do!

You guys are crazy...