I am abandoning TULIP

Diane,

Grandpa always said that when you throw a rock in a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one hit.

Or, if the shoe fits, wear it.

[emphasis added]

TCassidy

If my asking you about your usage of Pelagius as your church father set you down this path, I apologize. It could be that you have just made a pattern of poor word choices and have gotten heated because those choices were questioned.

 

Diane, you are kidding, right? Wes called us "religionists." I posted the definition of a "religionist" which says that it is a person who "affects" or "falsely puts on" a religious face when he really doesn't believe. Wes didn't use the word "affects," the definition of "religionist" uses the word and makes it very clear what it means.

Wes called us religionists. That is, by definition, a person who "falsely puts on" a religious face. That is what Wes called us. That is what he said. That is not only questioning our salvation, it is an out and out statement that we are false professors of Christianity. And it is not the first time he has done it. You have been notified of another instance and did nothing.

You can side with him all you want to, but when you condone the questioning of the salvation of those who he disagrees with, which he has done several times, it is poor exercise of your Administrator authority, but when you side with him and agree with him you have stepped way over the boundary. </font>[/QUOTE]Like I said, You have a language all to yourselves! One that is not common to man!

 

Tcassidy,
It is only a violation of your "foreign language", and not a violation of the commonly understood meanings. Perhaps in your foreign language you can find something where I've impuned you faith, but that definition is not common among men!

Deal with it!

 

Diane,

Wes did say in some thread somewhere this weekend that he thought that I was not elect. I don't know whether he was kidding or what (I'm never really sure) but it didn't bother me. But he has done it to others too.

whatever

 

Diane,

Wes did say in some thread somewhere this weekend that he thought that I was not elect. I don't know whether he was kidding or what (I'm never really sure) but it didn't bother me. But he has done it to others too.

whatever </font>[/QUOTE]Just stating my personal opinion regarding "election" in general and doing so in a public forum.

Why don't you get just as offended when others are called names that are derogatory to them? Why aren't you incensed when believers are deliberatly pigeonholed?

The truth is you are simply trying to get me suspended or banned outright because I don't hold your religious views, challenge your "positional authority", and I am very outspoken. On this BBS you are nothing more than a "POSTER", on who posts!

 

An internet search returned this as the PRIMARY entry.

religionist
A noun
1 religionist, religious_person
a person who manifests devotion to a deity
Category Tree:
entity
object; physical_object
living_thing; animate_thing
organism; being
person; individual; someone; somebody; mortal; human; soul
religionist, religious_person
Mandaean; Mandean
coreligionist
churchgoer; church_member
celibate
believer; worshiper; worshipper
anointer
abstainer; ascetic
Hindu; Hindoo
Buddhist
Muslim; Moslem; Mohammedan; Muhammedan; Muhammadan; Islamist
non-Catholic
Christian

 

TCassidy,

You must be having a bad day.

Why are you representing the SECOND meaning of the word affect (from which is derived the second word you switched to - affectation) for the first meaning of the word (click below)?

affect

 

I said it didn't bother me. That means I wasn't offended. I'm not trying to get you banned. I was just pointing out that you did say what you said, which you know you said.

 

Like I said El_Guero,
Religionists have a foreign language unto themselves.

 

TCassidy,

You are having a bad day.

 

Hey Wes,

You used the word originally. Maybe you can clear this whole thing up. What did you mean when you called us religionists? Did you mean that we are devoted to a deity, or did you have something else in mind?

 

Fair enough whatever, The meaning of the word as I used it applies to those who make their living at religion! Such as Professors of Religion especially in secular colleges, universities, but also in major seminaries, along with other modern day Pharisees and Sadducees. Generally all who are not leading churches as pastors, but are influencing the thoughts of others through their roles in religion are what I call religionists.

 

Thomas sent me a moderator alert and I edited one post where Wes questioned Thomas's salvation. The use of "religionist" was pushing the line but I let it stand.

This thread needs to be about issues, not people. Straighten it out folks ...

 

Wes, I take offense at this portion of your explanation.

I hope I'm reading it wrong and if I am, please correct me.

Were it not for great biblical scholars teaching in our seminaries, our churches would have self taught preachers trying to shepherd their flock.

Also, many, many of the professors are retired pastors or current pastors, such as Dr. Tom Cassidy, Dr. Bob, Jim1999 and many others on our board.

Diane

 

Wes,

Generally applying the term religionist like that is stronger than what the dictionary denoted. Zealousness is not in itself a bad thing ... but, generically calling professors "Pharisees or Sadducees" is stronger than I would support.

I am not saying that I agree with everything that professors and doctors of religion say, but I do want to go on the record as saying: "Being a professor of religion should not equate with being a Pharisee"

Wayne

 

We mock which we don't know....

 

As with every rule, there are exceptions, but I see no exception here on this BBS!

 

The Pharisee's where hypocrites We NOT because they "learned" men. But because they suppressed the truth in unrighteousness because of jealousy and fear.

We are not suppressing truth, but seeking it. And are definitely not jealous or in fear of our positions here that's for sure....

The only jealousy I see are those who DON'T have a degree mocking those who do.

 

Then you also have poor vision!