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"I am an independent"

RighteousnessTemperance&

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And that is a great reason to have fusion voting
Fusion voting might be useful in influencing a party's choice of candidate, but some of that already goes on between groups. It happened in the last presidential election, hence Pence.

BTW, I read through your earlier link to IRV, but in doing so found that it can be spoiled, sometimes tactically, but also because of inherent flaws.
 

church mouse guy

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We have the worst safety net for the needy among developed nations. Our healthcare system is 17th in the world barely above Cuba. Yes, other countries have their 1% but they are far more equal than America. We are the most unequal of the developed countries.

This is just silly. Cuba does not even have any kind of system that works. It is a communist country and the second poorest country in the world. The only medical system is for members of the communist party and tourists from the UK and Canada. Cuban doctors probably could not qualify as EMTs in the USA. California is thinking of going to free medicine; if they do, everyone in the world can go to California and get treated for nothing.
 

FollowTheWay

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This is just silly. Cuba does not even have any kind of system that works. It is a communist country and the second poorest country in the world. The only medical system is for members of the communist party and tourists from the UK and Canada. Cuban doctors probably could not qualify as EMTs in the USA. California is thinking of going to free medicine; if they do, everyone in the world can go to California and get treated for nothing.
No facts here.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I used to say that I am/was a small "i" independent. An independent but not registered as such.
Here in WA State we are viewed as "no preference" or "no affiliation".

When I entered the world of politics in the 60's I was a JFK Democrat.
Even at that Barry Goldwater (R) was my man in his day.

Roe v. Wade changed everything, I totally renounced my affiliation with the Democratic Party.

To me the Republican Party was/is the lesser of two evils.
Roe v. Wade happened under a Republican administration with several following Republican administrations unable to revoke it.

Today I identify with the Libertarian Party.
I am a Pro-Life Libertarian by affiliation.
Yes well.... :mad:

God and GOP

Posted on June 26, 2018 by Landover Baptist Churchin Bible Study, Greatest Sermons, Society & Politics

republican-cross-287x264.jpg

God wants you to be a Republican.

You may have heard news reports of Demoncrats who say they are Christians, but these are usually on unreliable channels, or on Fox news where they are exposed for the hypocrites that they are.

How do we know that God wants us to be Republican? The Bible tells us so.

The Bible starts with the History of God and how he makes something from nothing which He might profit from: The Universe. His untaxed reward? Constant praise, millions of employees, and a dividend of souls.

Next we have business assets – Ge:2:18: And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him – God gave man assets – all the beasts.

Next we have Eve Ge:2:20- 22 an employee. Great businesses always start by hiring an employee.

God recognized the use of Law and Order and gave us the 10 Commandments enforced by an incorruptible priesthood directly responsible to Him.

God dealt with His enemies the only way they understand:Shock and Awe. 1Chronicles:20:3; Psalms:68:21-23
God dealt with abominations the only way they understand:Shock and Awe. Ge:19:24
God dealt with foreigners the only way they understand:Shock and Awe. 1Samuel 15:2-3

And to reinforce the Law, a strong and infallible God with the sanction of not a mere life sentence, but a sentence of eternal torture!

There will be those among you who have not read your Bible –you may be deluded liberals with an “interpretation” – God’s Word needs no “interpretation”:His Words stand before you in burnished Gold.

These milquetoast Demoncrats think they know better than God: They call upon God to change His mind… Jesus is God. Was Jesus’s Ministry on Earth really a cry for Hillary Clinton come forth as a prophet and save us all?

Or was its message a little clearer?
Re:19:15: And out of his [Jesus’s] mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Re:19:21: And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

We cannot disapprove of any of this – it would be blasphemy.We cannot alter the facts: they are before us! We must approve and do our best to avoid being among the slaughtered.

And yet there are “RINOs”, doves, peacemakers, compromisers! One cannot compromise with sin! We must work to bring God’s Kingdom on Earth.

Ask yourself: “Who do I trust to deliver God’s brand of Christianity that the Jews will be perfected and End of Days will arrive? GOP or some chattering social group of intellectuals who have never done a proper day’s work in their lives?”

What an obvious answer!:Laugh
 

HankD

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Yes well.... :mad:

God and GOP

Posted on June 26, 2018 by Landover Baptist Churchin Bible Study, Greatest Sermons, Society & Politics

republican-cross-287x264.jpg

God wants you to be a Republican.

You may have heard news reports of Demoncrats who say they are Christians, but these are usually on unreliable channels, or on Fox news where they are exposed for the hypocrites that they are.

How do we know that God wants us to be Republican? The Bible tells us so.

The Bible starts with the History of God and how he makes something from nothing which He might profit from: The Universe. His untaxed reward? Constant praise, millions of employees, and a dividend of souls.

Next we have business assets – Ge:2:18: And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him – God gave man assets – all the beasts.

Next we have Eve Ge:2:20- 22 an employee. Great businesses always start by hiring an employee.

God recognized the use of Law and Order and gave us the 10 Commandments enforced by an incorruptible priesthood directly responsible to Him.

God dealt with His enemies the only way they understand:Shock and Awe. 1Chronicles:20:3; Psalms:68:21-23
God dealt with abominations the only way they understand:Shock and Awe. Ge:19:24
God dealt with foreigners the only way they understand:Shock and Awe. 1Samuel 15:2-3

And to reinforce the Law, a strong and infallible God with the sanction of not a mere life sentence, but a sentence of eternal torture!

There will be those among you who have not read your Bible –you may be deluded liberals with an “interpretation” – God’s Word needs no “interpretation”:His Words stand before you in burnished Gold.

These milquetoast Demoncrats think they know better than God: They call upon God to change His mind… Jesus is God. Was Jesus’s Ministry on Earth really a cry for Hillary Clinton come forth as a prophet and save us all?

Or was its message a little clearer?
Re:19:15: And out of his [Jesus’s] mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Re:19:21: And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

We cannot disapprove of any of this – it would be blasphemy.We cannot alter the facts: they are before us! We must approve and do our best to avoid being among the slaughtered.

And yet there are “RINOs”, doves, peacemakers, compromisers! One cannot compromise with sin! We must work to bring God’s Kingdom on Earth.

Ask yourself: “Who do I trust to deliver God’s brand of Christianity that the Jews will be perfected and End of Days will arrive? GOP or some chattering social group of intellectuals who have never done a proper day’s work in their lives?”

What an obvious answer!:Laugh


Thanks?
 

Covenanter

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I know the OP & thread is political ......

I have been a member of Independent Evangelical churches (fiec.org.uk) for all my Christian life - churches are affiliated & in fellowship with each other, & with Christians & churches of other denominations as considered appropriate locally.
 

FollowTheWay

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No, you offered no facts either. I have been reading Cuban dissident blogs for five years. If you think that Cuba has anything good, you are immune to the suffering of the Cuban people.
World Health Organization's Ranking of the World's Health Systems

World Health Organization’s Ranking of the World’s Health Systems

Some people fancy all health care debates to be a case of Canadian Health Care vs. American. Not so. According to the World Health Organization’s ranking of the world’s health systems, neither Canada nor the USA ranks in the top 25.

30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 USA
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
 

church mouse guy

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World Health Organization's Ranking of the World's Health Systems

World Health Organization’s Ranking of the World’s Health Systems

Some people fancy all health care debates to be a case of Canadian Health Care vs. American. Not so. According to the World Health Organization’s ranking of the world’s health systems, neither Canada nor the USA ranks in the top 25.

30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 USA
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba


Well, now, you have demoted Cuba from where you had it before and you have the USA as better than Cuba, whereas you had Cuba as better before.

If you actually believe that Cuba has the 39th best health care system in the world while being the second poorest country in the world, then you are naïve. Cuba is a pit of poverty and squalor.

Or it could be that Cuban medical care is actually better than what you yourself receive. Perhaps you would care to visit this link to see smuggled photos of a Cuban hospital and then tell me if it is better than the place where you yourself go:

Free Healthcare? |
 

Salty

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Well, now, you have demoted Cuba from where you had it before and you have the USA as better than Cuba, whereas you had Cuba as better before.
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Depends on the criteria used to make a list.

For example - Did you hear about the 2 mile run that Russia and the USA were part of?

As reported in Pravda, "Russia comes in Second, USA comes in next to last."

So who won the race???
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Who won? --- The USA!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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World Health Organization's Ranking of the World's Health Systems

World Health Organization’s Ranking of the World’s Health Systems

Some people fancy all health care debates to be a case of Canadian Health Care vs. American. Not so. According to the World Health Organization’s ranking of the world’s health systems, neither Canada nor the USA ranks in the top 25.

30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 USA
38 Slovenia
39 Cuba
Pathetic
 
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