Paul stated to us that we ALL were once in the Kingdom of Satan, and Jesus said that sinners without Him are children of the devil, so you know more on this than either Jesus or Paul?
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I Am Begotten of God
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Paul stated to us that we ALL were once in the Kingdom of Satan, and Jesus said that sinners without Him are children of the devil, so you know more on this than either Jesus or Paul?
Paul stated to us that we ALL were once in the Kingdom of Satan, and Jesus said that sinners without Him are children of the devil,
Agreed:
Colossians 1:12-13
King James Version (KJV)
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
God bless.
Agreed:
Colossians 1:12-13
King James Version (KJV)
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
God bless.
Which is teaching to us that even the elect of God must at some time in this life receive Jesus as their Lord thru faith still!
Which is teaching to us that even the elect of God must at some time in this life receive Jesus as their Lord thru faith still!
That should go without saying, but again, it is answered by understanding the Ministry of the Comforter. Christ taught the Comforter, when He came, would convict the "world," which is defined as speaking about everyone because He convicts unbelievers of sin:
John 16:7-9
King James Version (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
Scripture forces us to concede to that position unless we want to deny the elect are unbelievers before salvation.
God bless.
Do you believe everyone of flesh and blood written about in the bible except Jesus, was a child of the devil before they became a child of God?Paul stated to us that we ALL were once in the Kingdom of Satan, and Jesus said that sinners without Him are children of the devil, so you know more on this than either Jesus or Paul?
Yes or no?
Do you believe everyone of flesh and blood written about in the bible except Jesus, was a child of the devil before they became a child of God?
Yes or no?
Adam and Eve were created neutral to the condemnation that arose through their disobedience. They are the reason for Man's separation from God. Satan being all Man's "father" is not a matter of heritage but would better be illustrated with the analogy of Abraham being the father of those of faith.
Satan is ascribed "fatherhood" for introducing sin and we can liken that to the phrase "mother of all invention."
We also distinguish concerning "sons of God." There is a temporal use and a spiritual. A New Covenant cont and an Old. We see the use of sons of God in the Old but should not equate that to salvation in Christ. Under a New Covenant standard "sons or God" is specific to those born again, eternally indwelt, and eternally redeemed.
It has as a central focus reconciliation and restoring man to relationship with God.
God bless.
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What does any covenantThat the New Birth is a New Covenant reality is evident in Scripture. That it was foretold can be seen here:
have to do with being born of water and Spirit?
Please explain?
So you believe the commandments of God for womenThis is not a formal setting in which a woman cannot voice her view, but a public setting.
In such a setting I for one am all for anyone, male or female, defending the faith.
God bless.
have certain conditions upon them concerning
when and when not to be obeyed?
Is this correct?
Do you believe everything that Paul stated to you?Paul stated to us that we ALL were once in the Kingdom of Satan, and Jesus said that sinners without Him are children of the devil, so you know more on this than either Jesus or Paul?
Did Paul forget about John the Baptist?Paul stated to us that we ALL were once in the Kingdom of Satan, and Jesus said that sinners without Him are children of the devil, so you know more on this than either Jesus or Paul?
What is the Kingdom of Satan? And where is it?Paul stated to us that we ALL were once in the Kingdom of Satan, and Jesus said that sinners without Him are children of the devil, so you know more on this than either Jesus or Paul?
What does any covenant
have to do with being born of water and Spirit?
Please explain?
Water and Spirit can both be seen in Scripture to deal with cleansing and empowerment. A Baptism, or washing, is an immersion that assumes cleansing and association. We are born again through the washing of the water of the Word, not physical water. And I am at a disadvantage right now so can't post Scripture like I like to, but here are a few to consider and we can discuss them:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1peter+1:23&version=KJV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Titus+3:4-5&version=KJV
Let's start there.
So you believe the commandments of God for women
have certain conditions upon them concerning
when and when not to be obeyed?
Is this correct?
Of course not, they are just as universal as those given men. Where we make a distinction is in the area of corporate leadership. There is a standard seen in the Levitical Priesthood that establishes what some of us see taught concerning Christian leadership.
But I'll put my wife against any man and bet she'll teach them a thing or two, lol. Women are commanded to teach younger women, and I see nothing wrong with that in a corporate setting. We visited a Mennonite fellowship and they literally divided men and women, and I didn't have a problem with that.
As Pastors? I don't see that as Biblical. We do see an exception or two in Old Testament economy, but not in Christian Doctrine.
And in a forum setting? Absolutely. Wish my wife would get involved, because its a great way to learn.
That is not what I would consider usurping authority over a man. That would be specific to leadership in corporate setting or in the family structure.
God bless.
What is the Kingdom of Satan? And where is it?
It is the spiritual domenion that God allows satan to have since the fall of adam, and its all over this earth!
It is the spiritual domenion that God allows satan to have since the fall of adam, and its all over this earth!
Agreed, and we see that dominion removed in the tribulation:
Revelation 11:15-17
King James Version (KJV)
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
God bless.
And at his second coming, Daniel prophecy is fully completed, as his kingdom crushes all others, and is extended upon whole earth!Agreed, and we see that dominion removed in the tribulation:
Revelation 11:15-17
King James Version (KJV)
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
God bless.
And at his second coming, Daniel prophecy is fully completed, as his kingdom crushes all others, and is extended upon whole earth!
This is true, however, that does not mean there will not be false prophets in the Kingdom:
Zechariah 13
King James Version (KJV)
1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
2 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.
3 And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the Lord: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth.
4 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive:
5 But he shall say, I am no prophet, I am an husbandman; for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth.
6 And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.
They will not have free reign to teach false doctrine as they do today.
God bless.