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I am KJVO

rockytopva

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Paranoia schizophrenia as in a fear that KJVO is something bad. Maybe with some of the KJVO folk coming across as terribly rude it may be justified. As.... Look out! That guy is KJVO! He is going to want to argue day and night over the least little things!

We have a men's Bible study on Wednesday morning that I sometimes attend. Our gracious host, Phil, will want a nice conversation and will give others the honors of leading the Bible study. There is a guy named Mike who is terrible contentious. When Phil lets him speak he has to change gears with him as Mike will go off as if the whole world is wrong except him. I invited them to Pentecostal Holiness camp meeting and they went one time. I believe the speakers came across as too "King Jamesy" and they didn't return back. There is a fear some people have over the KJVO bunch that may be justified.
 

Charlie24

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We have a men's Bible study on Wednesday morning that I sometimes attend. Our gracious host, Phil, will want a nice conversation and will give others the honors of leading the Bible study. There is a guy named Mike who is terrible contentious. When Phil lets him speak he has to change gears with him as Mike will go off as if the whole world is wrong except him. I invited them to Pentecostal Holiness camp meeting and they went one time. I believe the speakers came across as too "King Jamesy" and they didn't return back. There is a fear some people have over the KJVO bunch that may be justified.

Most of the KJVO folks I know, and that's a lot of them, are middle ground with it. But there are the fanatics that will disassociate over it.

I think it's more about the person when it comes to the fanatics.
 

rockytopva

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I came into a Southwestern Virginia that was very much the way GC Rankin described it...

CHAPTER III
An Old-Time Election in East
Tennessee, and Else


In the earlier days, long before the railroads ran through that section, East Tennessee was a country to itself. Its topography made it such. Its people were a peculiar people - rugged, honest and unique. I doubt if their kind was ever known under other circumstances. Hundreds of them were well-to-do, and now and then, in the more fertile communities, there was actual wealth. Especially was this true along the beautiful water-courses where the farm lands are unequaled, even to this good day.

Among them were people of intelligence and high ideals. No country could boast of a finer grade of men and women than lived and flourished in portions of that "Switzerland of America." Their ministers and lawyers and politicians were men of unusual talent. Some of the most eloquent men produced in the United States were born and flourished in East Tennessee.

Those evergreen hills and sun-tipped mountains, covered with a verdant forest in summer and gorgeously decorated with every variety of autumnal hue in the fall and winter; those foaming rivers and leaping cascades; the scream of the eagle by day and the weird hoot of the owl by night - all these natural environments conspired to make men hardy and their speech pictorial and romantic. As a result, there were among them men of native eloquence, veritable sons of thunder in the pulpit, before the bar, and on the hustings.

But far back from these better advantages of soil and institutions of learning, in the gorges, on the hills, along the ravines and amid the mountains, the great throbbing masses of the people were of a different type and belonged almost to another civilization. They were rugged, natural and picturesque. With exceptions, they were not people of books; they did not know the art of letters; they were simple, crude, sincere and physically brave. They enjoyed the freedom of the hills, the shadows of the rocks and the grandeur of the mountains. They were a robust set of men and women, whose dress was mostly homespun, whose muscles were tough, whose countenances were swarthy, and whose rifles were their defense. They took an interest in whatever transpired in their own localities and in the more favored sections of their more fortunate neighbors. They were social, and practiced the law of reciprocity long before Uncle Sam tried to establish it between this country and Canada.

Who among us, having lived in that garden spot of the world, can ever forget the old-fashioned house-raisings, the rough and tumble log-rollings, the frosty corn-shuckings, the road-workings and the quilting-bees? And when the day's work was over - then the supper - after that the fiddle and the bow, and the old Virginia reel. None but a registered East Tennessean, in his memory, can do justice to experiences like those. No such things ever happened in just that way anywhere on the face of the earth except in that land of the skies.

Therefore, the man who even thinks of those East Tennesseans as sluggards and ignoramuses who got nothing out of life is wide of the mark. They had sense of the horse kind; and they were people of good though crude morals. No such thing as a divorce was known among them. It was rare that one of them ever went to jail in our section; and, if he did, he was disgraced for life. I never knew, in my boyhood, of but one man going to the penitentiary and it was a shock to the whole country. - George Clark Rankin "The Story of My Life"
 

rockytopva

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With a new generation comes...

1. Change in Bible translations
2. Disappearance of hymnals
3. Taking the denominational name off the church shingle

I would worry with the newer translations a disappearance from the ideology of sin and wrong doing. My adulterous dad used to call the KJVO types, "Bible Thumpers" for their hard stance against wrong doing.
 
I like the KJV because it speaks the word with authority.
That's exactly why most ppl don't like it. Oh, they give other excuses, but it's the absolute authority of scripture that ticks them off. It's so much easier to grab some man's copyrighted version of the truth, than to seek the HS and actually obtain true wisdom.

Paranoia schizophrenia as in a fear that KJVO is something bad. Maybe with some of the KJVO folk coming across as terribly rude it may be justified. As.... Look out! That guy is KJVO! He is going to want to argue day and night over the least little things!
"KJVO" is a label, and labels are convenient tools with which to vilify, to toss around like a political football. It's even been quantified here on this site; like ordering junk food at McDonald's, you simply pick your pejorative position/label from a pre-selected list and then the fireworks begin. It's a weak person who resorts to labeling. Sad, really.

It wouldn't be so bad if folks actually followed up on the documentation, when provided. But most are simply too lazy and too proud; it's distasteful to change one's position after being confronted with the truth. Truth is the first casualty in this infowar.

Ppl don't pray, so they don't discern. It's all downhill from there.

I think it's more about the person when it comes to the fanatics.
"Fanatics" can be found in any employ.

a disappearance from the ideology of sin and wrong doing.
We were warned; it's all a part of the exploding ecumenism.
 

Scarlett O.

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That's exactly why most ppl don't like it. Oh, they give other excuses, but it's the absolute authority of scripture that ticks them off. It's so much easier to grab some man's copyrighted version of the truth, than to seek the HS and actually obtain true wisdom.


"KJVO" is a label, and labels are convenient tools with which to vilify, to toss around like a political football. It's even been quantified here on this site; like ordering junk food at McDonald's, you simply pick your pejorative position/label from a pre-selected list and then the fireworks begin. It's a weak person who resorts to labeling. Sad, really.

It wouldn't be so bad if folks actually followed up on the documentation, when provided. But most are simply too lazy and too proud; it's distasteful to change one's position after being confronted with the truth. Truth is the first casualty in this infowar.

Ppl don't pray, so they don't discern. It's all downhill from there.


"Fanatics" can be found in any employ.


We were warned; it's all a part of the exploding ecumenism.
Why don't you stop the passive-aggressive insults and tell us what you REALLY think of us who like the King James, but prefer other versions.

So far you said, we are deceived, don't want God's authority, lazy, proud. we don't pray, we don't discern, and don't embrace the truth.

I can take it. What do you REALLY think of us? :Laugh
 

Ascetic X

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Why don't you stop the passive-aggressive insults and tell us what you REALLY think of us who like the King James, but prefer other versions.

So far you said, we are deceived, don't want God's authority, lazy, proud. we don't pray, we don't discern, and don't embrace the truth.

I can take it. What do you REALLY think of us? :Laugh
When King James Version Onlyism is championed by a person who acts holier than thou and slings personal attacks, wild accusations, and hostile insults at those who have a different view, it does not make the King James Version look very good. In this way, KJV Onlyism destroys itself and ruins its credibility.
 
Why don't you stop the passive-aggressive insults and tell us what you REALLY think of us who like the King James, but prefer other versions. ... What do you REALLY think of us?
Nuthin' P/A about it. And "us"? What you or I may "think" counts for nada. While I do understand this is an "Other Christian denominations" forum, the truth won't be pigeonholed into any PC checklist.

So far you said, we are deceived, don't want God's authority, lazy, proud. we don't pray, we don't discern, and don't embrace the truth.
"We"? So we are already polarizing, are we? So much for the truth...

I can take it.
Maybe "take it" to the Debate forum? Oh wait, this IS the Debate forum...

When King James Version Onlyism is championed by a person who acts holier than thou and slings personal attacks, wild accusations, and hostile insults at those who have a different view, it does not make the King James Version look very good. In this way, KJV Onlyism destroys itself and ruins its credibility.
Assumptions and emotional attachments (e.g. "King James Version Onlyism") should not be "championed" by anyone - let alone a follower of Jesus Christ. It's yet another strawman intended to pander to the flesh and enflame sensibilities. One can get the same rendition from the secular National Enquirer.

I'm more interested in learning of the "non Baptist" rockytopva's motivation for his OP.
 
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rockytopva

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Nuthin' P/A about it. And "us"? What you or I may "think" counts for nada. While I do understand this is an "Other Christian denominations" forum, the truth won't be pigeonholed into any PC checklist.


"We"? So we are already polarizing, are we? So much for the truth...


Maybe "take it" to the Debate forum? Oh wait, this IS the Debate forum...


Assumptions and emotional attachments (e.g. "King James Version Onlyism") should not be "championed" by anyone - let alone a follower of Jesus Christ. It's yet another strawman intended to pander to the flesh and enflame sensibilities. One can get the same rendition from the secular National Enquirer.

I'm more interested in learning of the "non Baptist" rockytopva's motivation for his OP.

Am I Non-Baptist? I was Baptized in three churches as a teenager...

1. GARBC Registered Baptist
2. Freewill Baptist
3. Pentecostal Holiness

All "dunked" in baptistries or rivers. I have no regrets of having been baptized three times or any desires for being baptized a fourth time. I would consider all three "Fundamentalist" (anyone remember that term?). There are no Freewill Baptist or Pentecostal Holiness universities nearby. Most of the pastors I know have gotten their degrees from Liberty University and are what I would consider Jonathan Falwell or Charles Stanley (who started out Pentecostal Holiness) types.

To get the Holy Spirit I would recommend dwelling in the following environment...

1. Worship - A place of good worship. I like the old camp meeting piano
2. Word - A time in which a speaker speaks from the Word of God. I like the King James Version

Here lately the options are more like...

1. Worship - A time of contemporary worship
2. Word - Where is that guy coming from? What is he trying to say?

I have wondered about the need of spiritual wisdom from God in these matters.
 
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Am I Non-Baptist? I was Baptized in three churches as a teenager...
You say you have been water baptized, while your profile says you are a "non Baptist" and your post is in the "Other Christian Denominations" forum. Personally, I do not maintain any denominational affiliation.

To get the Holy Spirit I would recommend dwelling in the following environment...

1. Worship...
2. Word...

I have wondered about the need of spiritual wisdom from God in these matters.
3. Confession...
4. Repentance...
5. Forgiveness of others...

aka sanctification...

resulting in HS empowerment...
 
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rockytopva

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You say you have been water baptized, while your profile says you are a "non Baptist" and your post is in the "Other Christian Denominations" forum. Personally, I do not maintain any denominational affiliation.


3. Confession...
4. Repentance...
5. Forgiveness of others...

aka sanctification...

resulting in HS empowerment...

And it is nice when the fruits of that sanctification results in Christian ladies and gentlemen. With so many sermons these days I have made it a rule...

1. If I like the sermon - Thank the minister
2. If I don't like the sermon - Don't say anything at all
 

Salty

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And it is nice when the fruits of that sanctification results in Christian ladies and gentlemen. With so many sermons these days I have made it a rule...

1. If I like the sermon - Thank the minister
2. If I don't like the sermon - Don't say anything at all
May I relay a story?

Back in 1971 - We had just arrived in Germany - as we had just been diverted from Vietnam.
The ONLY clothing I had was my class A's.
Sunday Morning - I attended chapel
When I walked in - I saw that the chaplain was wearing a collar.
I stepped outside to make sure this was not the Roman Catholic service
Yep - it was the General Protenant service.
So I go in
At the end of the service, the Chaplain greets me. He knew i was brand new, as I was wearing my uniform.
He asked me how I enjoyed the service.
I answered "Chaplain, I am a Baptist, I am used to good preaching"
His answer - "See that man standing by the pulpit he goes to a Baptist church on Sunday nights -...."
I did - got to meet him became a good friend! (too bad we did not have FB back then - would have love to have stayed in touch)

BTW - at the time I was 19 years old - back when I was Young, Dumb & Stupid!
Today, I could relay a similar message, in a more tactful way.

I wont mention the Chaplain was a Lutheran!


Then some 10 years later, in 1980; I met a German Lutheran minister.
He spoke no English - I spoke no German
He pointed to his heart and in broken English: "Jesus in my heart". What a blessing
At the time he was about 80 years old - there is not a doubt in my military mind that he is now in the presence of the Lord.

When I arrive in Heaven - I trust he will be on my welcoming committee!
 

Psalty

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We have a men's Bible study on Wednesday morning that I sometimes attend. Our gracious host, Phil, will want a nice conversation and will give others the honors of leading the Bible study. There is a guy named Mike who is terrible contentious. When Phil lets him speak he has to change gears with him as Mike will go off as if the whole world is wrong except him. I invited them to Pentecostal Holiness camp meeting and they went one time. I believe the speakers came across as too "King Jamesy" and they didn't return back. There is a fear some people have over the KJVO bunch that may be justified.
I know there are now a bunch of digital KJV updates… KJV2020, AKJV etc. Have you found any of the KJV crowd open enough to reading it? Is the NKJV not enough for most of them? Seems like there has been an incredible effort to help bridge the gap to the KJVO folks but most are not too interested?
 
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