I come against the evil of voter purges in Jesus name amen!

It worked in Florida, after all. This is the reason we have to turn out parties when they have been in control for too long. They start to think they have a right to do things like this.

 

So what is your solution to the problem of voter rolls filled with people who are ineligible to vote, whether by reason of citizenship, criminal history, death, etc?

 

Invoking Jesus' holy name in partisanship made me nervous when it was done against Clinton, and it makes me just as nervous to do it against a Republican. Ex 20:7 means little to so many.

 

Yes, that's absolutely true, Tom. The gospel is not about politics. MacArthur made some great points about that last night on LKL and on the Pulpit website recently.

 

No.

Christians should pray for justice and the rule of law. The last election before we moved from the Atlanta area, the AJC (hardly a conservative paper) reported that roughly 5000 dead people had voted inside the perimeter (the part of Atlanta metro that is over 70% black and a greater percentage than that Democratic). We know in the year of the Florida recount debacle that many double Dem votes were counted. People who were registered, and voted, in their northern home states and Florida.

Further, we know which party is fighting tooth and nail to prevent any type of voter identification to prevent voter fraud.

FTR from the article in question:

It said if you are "illegal or you are an immigrant" meaning a non-citizen then it is illegal for you to vote. If it is not a crime to vote in an election while a non-citizen it most certainly should be and should be enforced strictly.

 

If immigrants, legal or illegal attempt to vote they should be imprisoned and then deported. The same goes for felons or others who have lost their voting status. For that matter the same goes for criminals and others who violate the law. (not that illegal immigrants are not criminals) The police should be able to arrest anyone who shows up to vote and had an outstanding warrent. You break the law, you give up your rights as a citizen. That seems simple to me.

Why is it that only one party seems concerned about getting as many criminals to the polls as possible? Oh I forgot, this is the same party that wants to make it impossible for deployed military members to vote.

 

Aslanspal and Galatian,

Perhaps you missed the question so I will ask it again: So what is your solution to the problem of voter rolls filled with people who are ineligible to vote, whether by reason of citizenship, criminal history, death, etc?

Do you believe people should be on the voter rolls if they are ineligible to vote? If yes, why? If no, how do you propose to get them off the rolls if you are against voter roll purging?

 

Immigrants who are naturalized citizens can and should vote. It is not illegal for them, it is their duty as citizens to vote.

Well, in some states felons are barred from voting, in some they are not and in some they are for a fixed length of time only.

You've misstated the question. That should be, "Why is it that one party is determined to disenfranchise eligible voters who are likely to vote for the other party?"

 

Larry asks:

Well, in Florida, it was traced to a Republican plan to disable the system used to identify felons, so that it would not remove Cuban felons (who tend to vote republican) from the rolls.

Corruption. The usual. Apparently, in Ohio, some precincts had more people voting republican than were registered there.

Judging from the California example, they are also very active in trying to keep qualified voters from voting. No one should be surprised by this.

 

It is scary!

 

I will give you my opinion of your question. I don't think either party has a solution. Besides, finding a solution isn't the point of this thread, although it would be a good thing to think of.

I think the point of this thread was to show that one party had taken steps to "fix" the problem, yet they only seem to be doing it in selected sections and districts.

If you're really looking for a solution, as you have suggested by your question, then you should be concerned that they targeted only select areas to "fix" the problem.

You should want them to open up the area they "fix" in include all areas of all parties.

 

Thanks Daisy for clarifying that.

Now, Tentmaker, do you see where some of your points were wrong?

 

Perhaps you didn't read closely, or just ignored it. My question was not about what allegedly happened (and probably did from both sides). My question is about your solution to it. HOw do you propose to prevent ineligible voters from voting?

 

i don't think either party has a solution either. And finding a solution wasn't hte point of this thread. The point of the thread was to bash republicans (while ignoring teh fact that democrats do the same thing).

If they do it correctly, that is a good start. It doesn't matter where they do it, so long as they do it and do it correctly. The fact that an illegal votes somewhere does not mean that we should not try to prevent them from voting elsewhere.

I am concerned that we are not fixing the problem all over, through things like voter ID (which the democrats are against).

I do.

But my question was directed to the complainers here: Do you have a solution?

 

Prevent ineligible voters from voting? That is down right unconstitutional! Quick someone flame him and his heresy! How dare he put down the rights of illegals, criminals, and the dead from voting . . .

:wavey:

At the rate we are going, we might as well become a state of france, north korea, or syria . . .

:thumbs:

The first part was satirical . . .

 

Yes of course we want naturalized citizens to vote. I was thinking leagle immigrants who were still citizens of their home country. Once they become citizens they can and should vote.

Right again Daisy. In some states felons can petition to have their rights restored after a fixed period of time. I know often this includes their right to bear arms as well as their right to vote. But they should be purged off the rolls when conviceted and then added back later after they again become eligible.

The only case I know of where either party tried to disenfranchise eligible voters is in Florida where the democratic party tried to have the overseas military absantee ballets thrown out during the infamous recount of 2002. Is that what you are referring to? The article at the start of this thread dealt only with ineligible voters.

 

Yes thank you very much.