I early-voted yesterday morning for Trump and now I wholeheartedly regret it.

[sdcoyote]

The Roman system led to Nero et al., so I would not be so eager to follow that example. Just because democracy began there does not mean we should adopt it as our guide.

Harris/Walz is a non option and Trump is a terrible human being. As a Christian, I can not in good conscience vote for either.

I certainly would not, however, tell any of you who to vote for. That is between you and Jesus.

 

[MrW]

This election cycle has done a number on me. Since July, I have been ripped apart inside knowing that there is not a godly candidate at ALL! Not even a decent one. Or a truthful one.

I would lean towards voting for Trump and then he would open his mouth. I went back and forth with this as I said since July.

Harris was out as a choice for me. No way. No how.

I had made my decision to write-in someone and was at peace with that after I saw Trump's Truth Social account from back in August where he joked about Harris and Hillary and "blowj*bs". He is so gross and juvenile and NOT an adult.

Then I saw where Harris mocked Christians who came to her rally and told them that they were at the wrong rally. and how everyone there cheered with her and clapped against the Christians.

I said to myself. She CANNOT go in. What if my vote for someone else makes her slip in by a hair?

So Monday morning at 8:45 am, I cast my vote for Trump.

I got home just in time to see his little trolling of Harris by putting on a fake and scripted McDonald's show.

AND I saw his comment about the late Arnold Palmer and how large and impressive his GENITALS were. And what a physical specimen of a MAN he was.

Arnold Palmer's children are very upset. As they should be.

What actual and real man in his right mind SAYS something like that publicly? What KIND of man? An unhinged one.

America is under the judgment of God. I have believed that for years. And we are getting what we wholeheartedly deserve.

Trump got my vote yesterday. But he will never have my support or respect. The only thing he will get from me is my prayers. He has had that and now that will be all.

I feel unclean for voting for him and am in turmoil all over again. I should have done what I first decided and not voted.

Pray for me to move on. I've had headaches for the past few weeks and am not eating properly nor getting proper rest over this.

Pray for me. I have no one to tell in person or private because all my people believe him to be the most wonderful candidate. That has contributed to my feelings of despair.

I need to find a new hobby or task or direction and just let this go.

Policy, not personality.

You voted correctly. Harris would destroy us.

President Trump will pave the way for Vance, whom I believe will prove to be an excellent President.

 

[MrW]

I completely understand not voting for her.

How do you deal with his childish and vulgar and un-Presidential nature? Do you just call him the lesser of two evils?

Do you just overlook his conversations about Arnold Palmer's private area and much more? How do you move on from these things?

President Trump is absolutely the lesser of two evils. Conversely, and equally so, he is the best available candidate, because either President Trump will be president again again or Harris will be president; God forbid.

There is no third choice. Policy, not personality. Yes, Trump can be crude, but so can Harris, and she has been. Her policies, however, are absolutely horrible.

 

[kyredneck]

Vance, whom I believe will prove to be an excellent President.

Agree, but the commies will use every dirty trick in the book to prevent that from happening, including impeachment, depending on how congress goes.

 

[kyredneck]

Major odds shift has GOP favored to win House, Trump surging ahead in every swing state

Senate control

 

[poor-in-spirit]

Actually, as per Psalm 24:1 and Psalm 47:7, I do believe and declare that this election is under God's decision. Not our votes, in the grand scheme of things.

Well, our Lord never raised a king through voter fraud in the Old Testament. The "god" of this world does in this time however. Examples and precedent are provided to you by God for a reason.

And more important, if you believe what you said then "voting" would be a non issue for you. Per all of the New Testament by the way. The Testament that applies.

 

[KenH]

Whatever happens, God has nothing to do with it

Daniel 2:21 He removeth kings, and setteth up kings.

And, lest anyone try to say that, "We don't have kings in the United States", the verse is talking about governmental leaders of all types, regardless of the era. And, besides, a solid case can be made that the Congress has transferred so much of its powers to the executive branch, that the president has become a de facto king, just as Patrick Henry, in arguing against dumping the Articles of Confederation of 1781 and adopting the Constitution of 1787, would happen. They should have listened to Patrick Henry and the Anti-Federalists.

 

[Mikoo]

The Roman system led to Nero et al., so I would not be so eager to follow that example. Just because democracy began there does not mean we should adopt it as our guide.

Harris/Walz is a non option and Trump is a terrible human being. As a Christian, I can not in good conscience vote for either.

I certainly would not, however, tell any of you who to vote for. That is between you and Jesus.

Is Harris or Walz a terrible human being? Just wondering since you singled out Trump as one?

 

[poor-in-spirit]

Daniel 2:21 He removeth kings, and setteth up kings.

And, lest anyone try to say that, "We don't have kings in the United States", the verse is talking about governmental leaders of all types, regardless of the era. And, besides, a solid case can be made that the Congress has transferred so much of its powers to the executive branch, that the president has become a de facto king, just as Patrick Henry, in arguing against dumping the Articles of Confederation of 1781 and adopting the Constitution of 1787, would happen. They should have listened to Patrick Henry and the Anti-Federalists.

Again, the New Testament directly applies to us. Let's discuss it instead.

Followers of Christ are no longer citizens of this nation nor this world. We have now become foreigners, pilgrims and strangers to this nation and this world. Our conversation (transliterated as government/citizenship) is in Heaven.

Under the Mosaic Law, participation in government was encouraged. Remember, this functioned to address the needs of national Israel and their physical kingdom. The New Testament Church is distinct from Old Testament Israel in that it’s a spiritual Kingdom governed by spiritual principles looking past this physical world. As such, its recourse is neither physical nor political. God's Spiritual Kingdom on earth is His ONLY kingdom on earth until He Returns. It has no borders, no human governments, no flags.

In the Old Testament God had a physical Kingdom and He used this physical Kingdom for His Glory.

In the New Testament God has no physical Kingdom on earth but a Spiritual one. God is no longer raising and lowering kings or kingdoms. He has no physical, earthly interest in the Kingdoms and affairs on earth during our Age. Of course He knows exactly what will happen throughout the Church age but He influences none of it. Making no mention anywhere in His New Testament of Church history apart from it's beginnings and it's endings. (Rev chapters 2&3)

God used Daniel to show us the final kingdoms on earth before His Return to reclaim it. If God was still in the business of nations, what need would there be for Him to reclaim any of them?

Consider for a moment why God in the New Testament tells us to pray for those in human government authority? There is no command in the Old Testament similar to that. It is because He did not install them and He has no direct influence over any of them by His own Choice and His Own Righteous Principals. God works only through individuals (not nations) in our Testament, the New Testament. I am sure you have heard of it although most never quote it in regards to these issues.

World governments and political establishments are under the temporal power and authority of the “god of this world”. They are blind to God’s principles and refuse to answer to His authority (regardless of any of their claims):

**Note the wording below in the Gospel of Luke:

Luke 4: 5-7 KJV And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.

Did our Lord dispute Satan's offer? Did Jesus tell Satan he was lying about owning the world's governments and having the power to do with them as he wills? No, of course He did not. If Satan were lying Jesus would have called him on it.

Jesus only rebuked him for tempting Him, he did not dispute Satan's ability to offer them up.

When our Lord Returns to reclaim His earth and begin His global Reign He is reclaiming it from Satan remember. He has the beast and false prophet thrown directly into the Lake of Fire and has Satan chained in the bottomless pit for 1000 years.

Colossians 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
[2] Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
[3] Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

2 Corthinians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

I recommend focusing on the New Testament in Christ's Blood which fulfilled the Old instead of cherry picking what Testament applies to us based upon our own lusts (Eph 2:3).

 

[KenH]

Again, the New Testament directly applies to us. Let's discuss it instead.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

 

[MrW]

I cannot agree that God has no interest in earthly governments.

 

[MrW]

No wars under President Trump. Two under vice-president Harris.

About the McDonald's thing--purely humorous. I thought it very funny. I can just imagine the shock at the drive-through.

 

[poor-in-spirit]

2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Indeed, but one must understand first what applies to the Church and what does not apply. The word "doctrine" must be understood first. Once that word is understood, then you may reprove, correct and instruct.

Here is one example: the Doctrine of Christ

Are you also following the Law or was the Law fulfilled with Christ? Are you under the Law or under Grace? You can't be both so claiming God wants you to intermingle the teachings of the Old with the New in your daily walk is not sound doctrine. This is what is meant by cherrypicking, get it? Your passage from 2 Timothy must apply to all or it applies to none in the context you provided.

Have you considered that perhaps God made clear distinctions between the Old and New for your strategic learning?

Let's apply my example linked above. Anyone who separates Christ's Teachings from His Name, creates a false Christ and sadly most of what calls itself "Christian" these days follows a false one. They can't be reasoned with, they will simply find out the hard way when there is no opportunity remaining to correct themselves.

They either separate His Name from His Righteousness (liberals whom claim that God will overlook sin)
or
They separate His Name from the Liberty that made them free from the Law. (legalists who create their own laws of touch not, taste not, handle not while claiming Christ's Teachings are for some other group yet to appear on earth)

These two groups are where all the contentions of so called Christianity lie. These both claim the Name Christ but clearly do not know Him or the Power of His Resurrection. Neither group will follow Him to death. Heck, they can't even fully trust Christ here. They are obsessed with the cares of this life. How on earth can they believe they have life eternal.

Food for thought.

 

[iThinkStuff]

Major odds shift has GOP favored to win House, Trump surging ahead in every swing state

Senate control

I know this sounds like great news, but the fact that they are basing these headlines on online betting numbers has me... less convinced. Polling is skewed, sure, but does that making the online betting market pristine?

 

[KenH]

I know this sounds like great news, but the fact that they are basing these headlines on online betting numbers has me... less convinced. Polling is skewed, sure, but does that making the online betting market pristine?

I researched this some and Polymarket is not open for betting by Americans and bettors can only use cryptocurrency.

 

[iThinkStuff]

I researched this some and Polymarket is not open for betting by Americans and bettors can only use cryptocurrency.

True as that is, you can place bigger bets and shift the odds. Really it's just a reflection of who put down more money for which result. So if four accounts plop down millions of bucks on Trump, the odds shift that way. It's not the same as 1 person 1 vote. One person puts up $10, another $20. The person who put up $20 shifted the odds just a little bit more. And then there are the crypto whales who want him in because he's pro crypto.

 

[Piers Plowman]

Indeed, but one must understand first what applies to the Church and what does not apply. The word "doctrine" must be understood first. Once that word is understood, then you may reprove, correct and instruct.

Here is one example: the Doctrine of Christ

Are you also following the Law or was the Law fulfilled with Christ? Are you under the Law or under Grace? You can't be both so claiming God wants you to intermingle the teachings of the Old with the New in your daily walk is not sound doctrine. This is what is meant by cherrypicking, get it? Your passage from 2 Timothy must apply to all or it applies to none in the context you provided.

Have you considered that perhaps God made clear distinctions between the Old and New for your strategic learning?

Let's apply my example linked above. Anyone who separates Christ's Teachings from His Name, creates a false Christ and sadly most of what calls itself "Christian" these days follows a false one. They can't be reasoned with, they will simply find out the hard way when there is no opportunity remaining to correct themselves.

They either separate His Name from His Righteousness (liberals whom claim that God will overlook sin)
or
They separate His Name from the Liberty that made them free from the Law. (legalists who create their own laws of touch not, taste not, handle not while claiming Christ's Teachings are for some other group yet to appear on earth)

These two groups are where all the contentions of so called Christianity lie. These both claim the Name Christ but clearly do not know Him or the Power of His Resurrection. Neither group will follow Him to death. Heck, they can't even fully trust Christ here. They are obsessed with the cares of this life. How on earth can they believe they have life eternal.

Food for thought.

I have personal sympathies with your interpretation above, but I am uncertain as to how well it will mesh with Covenant theology in general.

 

[MMDAN]

My wife and I plan on voting early today. For the last two days at the meeting hall where we would vote it's been extremely crowded. We talked to a couple of different people who already voted there over those past two days, and they said it took them 2 hours from the time they waited in line to the time they finished voting.

 

[Reynolds]

My wife and I plan on voting early today. For the last two days at the meeting hall where we would vote it's been extremely crowded. We talked to a couple of different people who already voted there over those past two days, and they said it took them 2 hours from the time they waited in line to the time they finished voting.

It took me less than 5 minutes to vote. Helped my mom vote in a neighboring county. Took her less than 5 minutes.

 

[KenH]

Helped my mom vote in a neighboring county.

That was nice of you.