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Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Pastor Larry, Jan 10, 2005.

  1. Gregory Perry Sr.

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    Folks...when I saw the Passion I tried to look at it with a critical eye and since I'm leery of ANYTHING put out by Hellywood that was not hard for me to do.Having said that,I will say that even though it was done from a decidedly "catholic" perspective,it was very moving in it's reminder of the suffering that Christ chose to endure for our sakes.John 3:16 became even more real to me if that were possible.It was a bit disconcerting to have people sitting around me munching on popcorn as this scene was played out...sad actually.I fear that many viewed it as just another movie but I'm equally sure that God has most likely touched many hearts through it regardless.My biggest problem with the movie is the almost non-existent treatment given to the probably the most important part of God's redemptive plan...the RESURRECTION.The real victory of the Cross was not realized in full til our precious Lord Jesus stepped OUT OF THAT TOMB....so in my mind Gibson's movie left the story untold.The ending scene was just a bit too cryptic...no pun intended whatsoever.The truth is,the gospel of Jesus Christ will continue to best be spread by Born Again Blood Washed Bible Believing Christians who take up their cross and share the Good News of the Gospel one on one with the lost of this world.I don't think that any movie,particularly one out of Hollywood,will ever give this TRUTH a fair and thorough treatment that will make it an effective method of spreading the gospel.The movie was OK...but only that in the visual sense.Doctrinally(most importantly)it missed the mark.JMO

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  2. Plain Old Bill

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    I rented the DVD and played it on my 25 inch tv. I guess I missed the big screen effect.I hate to say this but I ended up picking it apart doctrinely which is not a good way to watch a movie. I wish I felt better about the movie.
     
  3. Ben W

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    A great film, went out and got the DVD as soon as it was available!
     
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    Johnv,
    would you mind terribly if I inserted my foot in my mouth about now?
     
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    I'm just thankful that no one gave me a copy of the DVD for Christimas. I still have no desire to see it.

    Andy
     
  6. Pastor Larry

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    Interesting comments from all. It is interesting how our perspective is different about things. I was talking to the guy who leads our teen group last night. He saw it twice and said he was so moved he couldn't talk for almost an hour after it. He said he cried like a baby. When he asked me about my favorite movie, he laughed when I told him. He said he couldn't stand it at all.

    Much was made of the evangelistic possibilities, so much so that churches bought out entire theatres and gave away tickets. I wonder if there is any lasting effect.

    John made a comment about God in the media. I must confess, I am somewhat on the line on that. God is not the purviw of hte media and I am concerned because the God of the Bible is very often not the God of the media. That seems foreign to the NT ideal of God's design of local churches. I don't think a "mainstream Jesus" is what God had in mind. It is an interesting thought ... What should be the relationship between God and the media?
     
  7. robycop3

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    I believe Jesus was physically abused and beaten MUCH MORE than the movie showed. Isaiah stated his beard was yanked out and that his visage was marred more than that of any man's. I believe He survived it only to fulfill prophecy and to prevent any one person from bragging he'd killed Jesus.
     
  8. mioque

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    I think the Passion is a very good film for a relatively small audiance. Even the criticisms voiced on this thread, mostly show that lots of people simply don't understand Passion plays as a genre.


    "Much was made of the evangelistic possibilities"
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    I think it is rather unsuitable for this.
     
  9. DavidsAngel

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    Ok my fellow Christians, I'm going to put my two cents in.

    The movie was full over All kinds of touches , Catholic, Baptist, Jewish, All of them. No one was left to spare.

    My bigest question to you is.

    If Jesus watched this movie what would HE say. And, trust me he's seen it along with everything else put out in Hollywood. Do you think he would say it was accurate to what he went through?

    The thing that bugs me is this. The only kind of religious ceremony and things in that time was JEWISH, Catholic's didn't exist for a while after.

    Personally I think it was a compact version of what had happened to him. I think we all would have been mortified had we been there. We might be able to say "we know" but when it comes down to it, we only have a veague inkling. Just like understanding Jesus and God, if we lived 2000 years we would still not understand.
     
  10. av1611jim

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    I saw it one time, in the theatre. I admit, I was stunned. That said, however, I could not get past all the catholic malarkey. What was that bit with Jesus being pushed off a bridge and laying there near strangled by the chain? What's up with that?
    Many other things in that movie were just impossible to get past. Therefore, my vote remains that it is just one more attempt of Hellywood to capitalize on the sufferings of others, be they victims of child abuse, spousal abuse, or the abuse our Saviour suffered.
    I will not be buying the DVD as I see it as a direct support of the catholic view of Christ. I will not be seeing it again.
    I went the first time, (admittedly) out of morbid curiosity, and have since repented of that.
    Robycop3 is correct here. Isaiah is a much clearer picture of what Jesus did, and I believe that THAT is the way God wants us to know about what Jesus did for us, i.e. by way of Scripture, nothing more, nothing less.

    I thought we "Baptist's" mantra was, "The Scriptures are our sole authority for faith and practice? Adding this movie to the mix is plain wrong.

    In HIS service;
    Jim
     
  11. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Haven't changed my view in the slightest - I have no desire to see it.
     
  12. Bro. Curtis

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    Nor do I. Everything we need to know is written in scripture. As Christians we get bombarded with enough Catholic tripe that I don't feel the need to pay for more.

    I get plenty moved reading the gospel accounts of Christ's life. IMNSHO, you can't fit that into a movie.
     
  13. Johnv

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    You wouldn't be the first. I've done it many a time [​IMG]
     
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    I've had lots of opportunities to see it but really no desire. I hope that it did introduce a lot of people to Christ though.
     
  15. Debby in Philly

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    I saw it in the theater. The audience there also left slowly, in relative silence. I remember the audience had the same reaction when I saw "Glory," the movie about the black soldiers in the Civil War. It was because both films made no attempt to sugar-coat or sanitize the truth, yet presented it in a very artistic and respectful way. And from that perspective, both films are valuable. People need to be reminded of the truth.
     
  16. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    Truth mixed with (Catholic) error can be more dangerous than no truth at all.
     
  17. chipsgirl

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    Just curious what this means since I haven't seen the movie. I heard Mel Gibson was Catholic so I figure that has something to do with your comment.
     
  18. NaasPreacher (C4K)

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    This was well covered last year - the film was not scripture based, but based on an account of the passion by a Catholic nun. There is a lot of extra-biblical material inserted, including the image of Christ's face coming off on the cloth when Veronica wiped it.

    This nun is now up for sainthood:

    LINK
     
  19. Bro. Curtis

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    That never ceases to amaze me. The fact that the pope somehow has a say in who becomes a saint, even though most epistles refer to even apostate Christians as saints.

    Another thread, perhaps.
     
  20. LarryN

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    Here's my question:

    Depictions of the crucifixion & events leading up to it have been portrayed for centuries. Europe has a history of holding "Passion Plays" for hundreds of years; from more than one theological perspective (including Roman Catholicism). Passion Plays produced by both Protestants and Catholics have been conducted in the U.S. for generations. One of the best known has been around for 66 years:


    http://www.blackhills.com/bhpp/pp_index.htm


    Hollywood has filmed the crucifixion & events leading up to it many times before; including both renditions of Ben Hur in 1926 & 1959.

    Given that both staged and filmed portrayals of Christ's Passion are nothing new; even previously from a Catholic perspective; why has this particular one seemingly struck such a nerve with many people?
     
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