I found me another heretic..

[Revmitchell]

I knew that statement was by Dallas Willard the moment I read it, since I had read it on his site a year or two ago. I have been trying to alert people to him and some of the teachings he's aligning himself with. It's not too surprising he has this view since he is closely aligned with Richard Foster (no time or space here to put in my concerns with him) and both are open admirers of Catholic Thomas Keating, Thomas Merton (who loved Buddhism) and others like that.

I posted it not so long ago in a thread about liberalism. Baptist Believer defends both him and this statement. He also tried the failed "body of works as a whole" argument.

 

[Berean]

:laugh:

Truly though. Let's play name that heretic. Who said:

"It is possible for someone who does not know Jesus to be saved. But anyone who is going to be saved is going to be saved by Jesus"

No googling!

-RB

I believe this statement was made by Rev Billy Graham to Robert Shullar and later repeated to Larry King on "Larry King Live"

 

[Revmitchell]

I believe this statement was made by Rev Billy Graham to Robert Shullar and later repeated to Larry King on "Larry King Live"

Graham would never say such a thing

 

[Johnv]

The "body of work as a whole" argument is irrelevant.

No, it's not. It's important to differentiate incident from pattern. If this is indicative of his pattern of messages, then he's a heretic. If it's isolated, contrary to his messages pattern of messages, then he spoke in error, but is not a heretic.

Don't get me wrong here, revmitchell, if he's a heretic, then his body of work as a whole will be further evidence to it.

Graham would never say such a thing

Actually, he did say something to that effect. But it was not in the same context as the OP. Graham's messages as a whole adhere strictly in salvation via faith in Christ alone. Graham is no heretic.

 

[Berean]

Graham would never say such a thing

Television interview of Billy Graham by Robert Schuller. Part 1, an approximately 7-minute-long broadcast in Southern California on Saturday, May 31, 1997. The following is an exact transcript* of an excerpt close to the end of this broadcast.

Schuller:Tell me, what do you think is the future of Christianity?​

Graham:Well, Christianity and being a true believer--you know, I think there's the Body of Christ. This comes from all the Christian groups around the world, outside the Christian groups. I think everybody that loves Christ, or knows Christ, whether they're conscious of it or not, they're members of the Body of Christ. And I don't think that we're going to see a great sweeping revival, that will turn the whole world to Christ at any time. I think James answered that, the Apostle James in the first council in Jerusalem, when he said that God's purpose for this age is to call out a people for His name. And that's what God is doing today, He's calling people out of the world for His name, whether they come from the Muslim world, or the Buddhist world, or the Christian world or the non-believing world, they are members of the Body of Christ because they've been called by God. They may not even know the name of Jesus but they know in their hearts that they need something that they don't have, and they ​

 

[Revmitchell]

Television interview of Billy Graham by Robert Schuller. Part 1, an approximately 7-minute-long broadcast in Southern California on Saturday, May 31, 1997. The following is an exact transcript* of an excerpt close to the end of this broadcast.

Schuller:Tell me, what do you think is the future of Christianity?​

Graham:Well, Christianity and being a true believer--you know, I think there's the Body of Christ. This comes from all the Christian groups around the world, outside the Christian groups. I think everybody that loves Christ, or knows Christ, whether they're conscious of it or not, they're members of the Body of Christ. And I don't think that we're going to see a great sweeping revival, that will turn the whole world to Christ at any time. I think James answered that, the Apostle James in the first council in Jerusalem, when he said that God's purpose for this age is to call out a people for His name. And that's what God is doing today, He's calling people out of the world for His name, whether they come from the Muslim world, or the Buddhist world, or the Christian world or the non-believing world, they are members of the Body of Christ because they've been called by God. They may not even know the name of Jesus but they know in their hearts that they need something that they don't have, and they ​

This is not the same thing as Willard said.

 

[DrRandyGrace]

Spoken like a true liberal. :laugh:


The quote is taken from an evangelistic role-play the author made up and put in his website. Here is the immediate context:

"But I still struggle with how I should view those who have other beliefs. I'm not sure I am ready to condemn them as wrong. I know some very good Buddhists. What is their destiny?"

This sounds like something Joel Olsteen said.