I got <banned> for this ...

[Rebel]

I don't know about that! The inconsistencies in Reformation Theology (infant baptism, state church ecclesiology) give a foothold for reconciliation with Rome as they are consistent with the overall teaching of Rome in regard to their concept of Augustinian soterology.

I agree with all three of your posts.

I'm kind of surprised anyone on here agrees about this, but I'm glad to see it.

 

[McCree79]

I don't know about that! The inconsistencies in Reformation Theology (infant baptism, state church ecclesiology) give a foothold for reconciliation with Rome as they are consistent with the overall teaching of Rome in regard to their concept of Augustinian soterology.

There is no room for reconciliation. "Tradition", of the Catholic Church is too much. Bigger issues there than just baptism.

I'm referring to scripture being being submissive to the "church authority" and tradition of the church. Protestants will never go back to that.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

Duplicate post. For some reason, you can't just say "dp" like on every other message board on the planet. You actually have to write everything out and give some long dissertation about why you had to delete or edit your post.

 

[JohnDeereFan]

SO!

Or I could say that the RCC has some beliefs that Protestants, as well as Baptists believe.

So in some ways, Roman Catholics are closer to Protestants than they think.

Mormons have some beliefs we believe, as well. Doesn't make them Christians.

 

[Rebel]

There is no room for reconciliation. "Tradition", of the Catholic Church is too much. Bigger issues there than just baptism.

I'm referring to scripture being being submissive to the "church authority" and tradition of the church. Protestants will never go back to that.

I normally would agree with you there. But apostate Protestantism would go most anywhere.

 

[McCree79]

I normally would agree with you there. But apostate Protestantism would go most anywhere.

What falls into that category? You referring to the charismatic movement, Lutherans, SBC members, or are you just referring to apostate churches as individual churches or members that have lost the gospel message?

* I'm just try to find out what Protestants you are referring too.

 

[Doubting Thomas]

As one who is a paleo-Orthodox, semi-Augustinian, I don't necessarily see certain points of agreement between Rome and the Reformers a bad thing. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Reformed]

I don't know about that! The inconsistencies in Reformation Theology (infant baptism, state church ecclesiology) give a foothold for reconciliation with Rome as they are consistent with the overall teaching of Rome in regard to their concept of Augustinian soterology.

Reformed Theology is not monolithic. It continues to reform. As a Baptist I am in agreement with its conclusions on the atonement and TULIP. I do not share its views on baptism and ecclesiology.

 

[Rebel]

What falls into that category? You referring to the charismatic movement, Lutherans, SBC members, or are you just referring to apostate churches as individual churches or members that have lost the gospel message?

* I'm just try to find out what Protestants you are referring too.

Individual churches but also denominations that have gotten so liberal as to call sodomy good, and to support killing unborn babies. And those are just two issues.

 

[McCree79]

Individual churches but also denominations that have gotten so liberal as to call sodomy good, and to support killing unborn babies. And those are just two issues.

Yeah, still can't get how 'Christians",can be pro-abortion. Their logic is selfish and lacks any biblical support.

 

[BobRyan]

sculleywr
Umm, go back, read some history. The split was officially made in 1054 when Rome issued the papal bull of excommunication. The reasons were this:
1. The Eastern Churches refused to accept the universal jurisdiction of the Pope.
2. The Eastern Churches refused to accept the Filioque, an addition to both the Creed and the Scripture that made the Spirit less than the Father and Son, rather than equal to.
The issues have, since then, grown in number. It is curious to note that 90% of Protestant groups still carry many Roman doctrines that differ from Orthodox. In many ways, Protestants are closer to Rome than they think.
GE:
http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=67226909#post67226909
A very worthwhile post to have read indeed!
In fact, for some time now I have argued for the total close in ranks in all of Christianity from about the time the Roman Catholic church lifted its anathema on Bible societies and hijacked the lot to further its own ends.
That was a most clever and effective move which caught the Protestants so unawares they are still not seeing it hundred years and nearly a quarter century after.
http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?p=67226893&posted=1#post67226893
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You have been banned for the following reason:
mandatory mentoring in MSC
Date the ban will be lifted: Never

The Website is Catholic owned and operated and they are very picky about "certain points of view",

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

The Website is Catholic owned and operated and they are very picky about "certain points of view",

Thanks Bob, tell me, what does <<mandatory mentoring in MSC>> and <MSC> mean?

That I gave the Master of Science candidates a compulsory assignment?

 

[PreachTony]

Thanks Bob, tell me, what does <<mandatory mentoring in MSC>> and <MSC> mean?
?

I'm not BobRyan, but I figured it meant "Mainstream Catholicism." :smilewinkgrin: Kinda like we abbreviate MSM for Mainstream Media.

 

[BobRyan]

Thanks Bob, tell me, what does <<mandatory mentoring in MSC>> and <MSC> mean?

That I gave the Master of Science candidates a compulsory assignment?

I think MSC is "member support Center" - they should have provided a hotlink in that message.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

I'm not BobRyan, but I figured it meant "Mainstream Catholicism." :smilewinkgrin: Kinda like we abbreviate MSM for Mainstream Media.

Thanks Tony.

Yesterday I had a nice chat with a Serbian Orthodox 'Farok' -'Pastor'-.

Now the oke who banned me being an 'Orthodox' himself --- goodness knows which --- speaking of 'MAINSTREAM' Catholocism, he made very sure he is NOT 'mainstream'!

So what am I to do for pete's sake! How would I, know if they themselves don't?!

In any case, this was a very nice 'Farok' and he too, was very quick to tell me all the things HIS 'Orthodoxy' was different than the 'Roman' Catholics.

What 'mainstream'? it's a farce!

"I've got a wife, not like THEM", told he me; and more other things "we" are and do which "THEY" don't are or do.

It's the same as the Muslims. Before all their war among themselves with themselves nowadays, who would have known the sectarianism and hate for one another Islam has been fostering all its existence long?

By the way, the Farok told me, Islam inherited their bowing over on the floor until the forehead touches way of prayer, from them, the Serbian Orthodox! It was very interesting to me.

Now are the Mainstream going to kill one another one day over whose legacy this manner of praying is?

No. 'Mainstream Catholicism' has one unifying bond : which is one day to kill all Reformed or and Reformation Protestants.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

I think MSC is "member support Center" - they should have provided a hotlink in that message.

Thanks Bob.

<<...they should have...>>> That's a good one!

All I can say, is your signature line:

<<<When reason vacates in regard to a given subject, the only weapons of argument left are in the hands of emotion. The simplest emotional weapons to wield are name-calling ,disparaging remarks, vitriol and acrimony for those deemed adversaries. All such ad hominem tactics provide nothing of persuasive substance, except to those whose reason has also been vacated on that same subject.>>>
[Used without permission. Nevertheless thanks.]

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

The point that GE made is a valid one. The RCC and Protestants have almost the same view of God, man, sin - including original sin - and the atonement.

Shucks .... I never meant THAT! ...anyway... thanks for the smile on my face.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

Why do you come to this board with your misbehavior at another board?

Good question!

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

There is no room for reconciliation. "Tradition", of the Catholic Church is too much. Bigger issues there than just baptism.

I'm referring to scripture being being submissive to the "church authority" and tradition of the church. Protestants will never go back to that.

The Farok also mentioned 'Tradition' like it is just as authoritative as the New Testament (mark! unlike the OT).

 

[Rebel]

Shucks .... I never meant THAT! ...anyway... thanks for the smile on my face.

If I misrepresented what you said or meant, I apologize.