I love the Grateful Dead

I like David's Psalms, but he was sumpthin' of a brute. I certainy wouldn't want to be him at the Great White Throne. In fact, I wouldn't want to be ME at the Great White Throne.

 

"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things." (Philippians 4:8)

I don't think the Grateful Dead falls into this instruction.

I am currently battling against secular music that has greatly influenced my son in a most negative way. I have destroyed numerous CDs not because they are secular, but because they fail to invoke any thoughts of God or the things of Christ. And yes, a lot of the music ideas he gets are from teens in the youth group. We have got to be on guard and know what our kids are listening to and watching. I guess its hard if you listen to the same music.

 

You're a brave man.

I'm afraid I have to admit zero familiarity. Strange, I know.

 

here are lyrics from one of the 'relative innocence' titles that the grateful dead have recorded.


Casey Jones

Driving that train, high on cocaine,
Casey jones is ready, watch your speed.
Trouble ahead, trouble behind,
And you know that notion just crossed my mind.

This old engine makes it on time,
Leaves central station ’bout a quarter to nine,
Hits river junction at seventeen to,
At a quarter to ten you know it’s travlin’ again.

Driving that train, high on cocaine,
Casey jones is ready, watch your speed.
Trouble ahead, trouble behind,
And you know that notion just crossed my mind.

Trouble ahead, lady in red,
Take my advice you’d be better off dead.
Switchman’s sleeping, train hundred and two is
On the wrong track and headed for you.

Driving that train, high on cocaine,
Casey jones is ready, watch your speed.
Trouble ahead, trouble behind,
And you know that notion just crossed my mind.

Trouble with you is the trouble with me,
Got two good eyes but you still don’t see.
Come round the bend, you know it’s the end,
The fireman screams and the engine just gleams...


Wow, relatively innocent? Hogwash!

 

Loose Lucy, another by the Grateful Dead has lyrics that are too vulgar to post.

Relatively innocent? NOT!!

 

Mr. Charlie? Song about turning someone onto heroin. Relative innocence? Poppycock!

 

I am certain that Hunter ...inserted some heroin related innuendos into this song.

The newcomer is reluctant, afraid of needles, etc., but the proponent of the drug says:

I won't take your life,
I won't even take a limb.
I'll just unload my shotgun
And take a little skin.

How true it is, the only evidence of a Heroin fix is a tiny pinhole of skin disturbed.

From the beginning of the song, it is stated:

I take a little powder,
I take a little salt,
I put them in my shotgun...

I read many years ago that cocaine is a salt, from a chemical point of view. Therefore, it might be more correct to say that this song is about SPEEDBALLING (i.e., mixing cocaine and heroin) than simply about heroin.

Another point along the speedball theory:

You take a silver dollar,
You take a silver dime,
You mix 'em up together
In some alligator wine.

Well, every junkie knows what a "dime" is.

A junkie might shoot 20-30 dollars worth of heroin and 5-10 dollars worth of cocaine in one shot. In the sixties the price may have been in the ballpark of 10-1.

You may ask, what about

I can hear the drums beat voodoo all night long,
Mr. Charlie tellin' me I can't do nuthin' wrong.

A strong speedball creates an audible effect in one's ears, which could be likened to drums or bells ringing. It also gives one a feeling of immense well-being (the heroin side of the experience) as in "I can't do nuthin' wrong."

Also, a junkie calling the needle a "shotgun" is not at all uncommon. Other expressions for the syringe include rifle, rig and works.


Now, if I only could tell you who "Mr. Charlie" is....

[ February 17, 2006, 12:40 AM: Message edited by: standingfirminChrist ]

 

You can love whatever music group you want, the Grateful Dead, the Beatles, Grand Funk Railroad, Led Zeppelin, the Bee Gee's, or whoever, but in the end what does it really matter.

Here's what I mean;

I had a brother who last year went home to be with the Lord. In his younger years he loved listening to Jimi Hendrix, Joe Crocker, Led Zeppelin, the Bee Gee's, all those groups, and he would crank the volume way up.

In his last dieing days my little sister brought over some of his old music to listen to.

He wanted nothing to do with it, he only wanted to listen to Christian music, he loved listening to "I'll Fly Away",

bless his heart,

in the end he really knew what was important. Only that which was of Glory to the Lord.

 

This is another fine example of the liberalism that is in the baptistboard. Moderators come in like the inquisition and shut down "certain threads" in a momens notice but here we have something that should never have even been started. This is nothing but glorifying Satan's music and Satan's people. This is music straight from hell, stinking hippy music. Where are the moderators I ask? This has nothing to do with "music ministry" and is strongly against baptist/christian belief. Shame on the moderators for letting this go. What's next, a thread on smoking marijuana----it wouldn't even surprise me, sadly.

It's one thing listening to that music (bad enough) but it's a whole other issue when you're completely bragging upon it.

I'm still a separated, Sin Hating, Devil Fighting, Fundamentalist that wants to live a life that glorifies God.

 

Full lyrics:

To me it looks like racist Mr. Charlie has commissioned one of his KKK buddies to go out and pepper some poor black person with rock salt to teach him a lesson. Of course that's just the "plain reading."

 

Returning to your post--hasn't anyone here ever heard of copyright???

Here is the interpretation that standingfirminChrist posted word for word. Notice below it is another interpretation similar to the one I drew. standingfirminChrist not only lifted the first interpretation without attribution, but failed to offer the alternate explanation given on the same page!

 

Petrel,

the song is in the public domain.......Im not so sure that posting it in a forum board once would violate that.


Behind ya all the way, Fundie1611

 

thank you bapmom,

I'm glad that God has blessed you with children, I pray that he'll give you grace and wisdom in rearing them right for the Lord.