WheresTheTruthInThat
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For MY sake?
You SHOULDN'T have!
You SHOULDN'T have!
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WheresTheTruthInThat
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That doesn't give a reason for you believing it a ghost?
God's grace and lovingkindness are things of reality to be drunk and savored into one's soul.... All you have to do is open the door!
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. - Revelation 3:20
I would be very careful on my references to the Holy Ghost... And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.- Matthew 12:32
A little research on the Jehovahs Witnesses and their failed prophecies/changed teaching over the years reveals the following:
They ARE false prophets.
The Millennium began in 1873. (Thy Kingdom Come, page 305)
The Millennium began in 1874. (Finished Mystery, page 386)
The resurrection would occur in 1878 (Thy Kingdom Come, page 234)
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old would return in 1925. (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, page 89)
The Book of Ruth is "not prophetical". (Watchtower Reprints IV, p.3110, 12/7/02)
The Book of Ruth "is prophetic". (Preservation", p. 169, 175, 176.)
Will the men of Sodom be resurrected?
Yes....Watchtower 7/1879 page 8
No.....Watchtower 6/1/52 page 338
Yes....Watchtower 8/1/65, page 479
No.....Watchtower 6/1/88, page 31
Yes...Live Forever (old Ed.) page 179
No....Live Forever (new Ed.) page 179
Yes...Insight, vol. 2., page 985
No...Revelation book, page 273.
6,000 years from Adam ended in A.D. 1872. (Daily Heavenly Manna, inside cover page),6,000 years of human history ended in 1873.(The Time is at Hand, p.33),6,000 years of human history ended in 1972.(The Truth Shall Make You Free, p.152, 1943 edition),6,000 years of human history ended in 1975. (Awake!, October 8th, 1968, page 15).
BTW, I remember my next door neighbors leaving the JW'S in 1975 when the 6,000 years prophecy failed yet again.
They ARE false prophets.
The Millennium began in 1873. (Thy Kingdom Come, page 305)
The Millennium began in 1874. (Finished Mystery, page 386)
The resurrection would occur in 1878 (Thy Kingdom Come, page 234)
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old would return in 1925. (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, page 89)
The Book of Ruth is "not prophetical". (Watchtower Reprints IV, p.3110, 12/7/02)
The Book of Ruth "is prophetic". (Preservation", p. 169, 175, 176.)
Will the men of Sodom be resurrected?
Yes....Watchtower 7/1879 page 8
No.....Watchtower 6/1/52 page 338
Yes....Watchtower 8/1/65, page 479
No.....Watchtower 6/1/88, page 31
Yes...Live Forever (old Ed.) page 179
No....Live Forever (new Ed.) page 179
Yes...Insight, vol. 2., page 985
No...Revelation book, page 273.
6,000 years from Adam ended in A.D. 1872. (Daily Heavenly Manna, inside cover page),6,000 years of human history ended in 1873.(The Time is at Hand, p.33),6,000 years of human history ended in 1972.(The Truth Shall Make You Free, p.152, 1943 edition),6,000 years of human history ended in 1975. (Awake!, October 8th, 1968, page 15).
BTW, I remember my next door neighbors leaving the JW'S in 1975 when the 6,000 years prophecy failed yet again.
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While I believe that our new JW member will insist that understanding of God's Word can evolve, but I think he/she may struggle with questions about why past understandings were incorrect or how new ones are justified. Probably put forth some kind of 'progressive revelation' defense like the Mormons.
WheresTheTruthInThat
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Why do you think THAT is- why not the other 2 Gods?
WheresTheTruthInThat
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Who hasn't made false guesses on the prophecies? What me to look up Baptist ones?
WheresTheTruthInThat
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False Prophets are the ones MAKING UP their own prophecies- not people pondering God's.
37818
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I gather you are not a Baptist?
Trinity is a name of an explaintion of three distinct Persons, God the Father, the Son of God and the Holy Spirit, They being the same LORD God.
Immortal soul, the Bible doesn't teach. Ezekiel 18:4. Matthew 10:28.
Hellfire. Revelation 20:14-15.
Holidays. Romans 14:5, One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
WheresTheTruthInThat
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I well know what they're supposed to be, WKM! But they AREN'T in the Bible...
Why? John he Apostle explains : Revelation 19:~>
11 And I saw heaven opened(heaven?(Ephesians 1:3-10, take a look), and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth Judge(Judge?Daniel 7:22-and 26-27, take a look)and make war.->(make WAR?Revelation 16:13-15).
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he has a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he(the person of the holy Spirit? the Comfort-John 15:26, combined with John 16:7-15) was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood->(because he is a warrior, understand?->Isaiah 63:10): and his name is called The Word of GOD.
14 And the armies which were in heaven(haven?Ephesians 1:3-10 and so on) followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.-> (And to her (unto the TRUE CHURCH of the Lord, this has nothing to do with denominations) was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp Sword (the Word of GOD, Hebrews 4:12-13, take a look), that with it he should smite the nations(Revelation 11:15-18 combined with Revelation 11:6, take a look): and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty GOD.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords. ->Yes, this name as a title is spiritually written on his thigh because he is an AMBASSADOR of the Lord JESUS-John 15:26.
9 And he said unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of GOD.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship GOD: for the TESTIMONY of JESUS is the spirit of prophecy. ->( Now, Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His). It's it.
Matthew 25:6-10
And at midnight (at the turn from the sixth to the seventh Day, this Day arrived, or seventh and last millennium) there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him. -> the foolish took their lamps, but took no oil with them: and said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. -> Not so; go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves, they went and the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with Him to the marriage: and the door was shut. -> Who was looking for oil and who was selling oil lost their souls for ALL ETERNITY. It's it.
Wernher von Braun, the famous rocket scientist, mentions being invited to church to be met up with a vibrant community. He does not mention church affiliation, only that, "these people make a live, vibrant community."
One day in Fort Bliss, a neighbor called and asked if I would like to go to church with him. I accepted, because I wanted to see if the American church was just a country club as I'd been led to expect. Instead, I found a small, white frame building... in the hot Texas sun on a browned-grass lot... Together, these people make a live, vibrant community. This was the first time I really understood that religion was not a cathedral inherited from the past, or a quick prayer at the last minute. To be effective, a religion has to be backed up by discipline and effort. - Wernher von Braun
It is important that we stand out as a vibrant force in our communities. And not just as people who think they understand special biblical revelations.
One day in Fort Bliss, a neighbor called and asked if I would like to go to church with him. I accepted, because I wanted to see if the American church was just a country club as I'd been led to expect. Instead, I found a small, white frame building... in the hot Texas sun on a browned-grass lot... Together, these people make a live, vibrant community. This was the first time I really understood that religion was not a cathedral inherited from the past, or a quick prayer at the last minute. To be effective, a religion has to be backed up by discipline and effort. - Wernher von Braun
It is important that we stand out as a vibrant force in our communities. And not just as people who think they understand special biblical revelations.
Oh, so now WTS teachings are only guesses and not false teachings? Interesting.
BTW, I am not a Baptist but belief in The Trinity has been central to Christianity. Denial of the Trinity sets a person or organization outside of the Christian faith.
You need to take the blinders off and actually read the responses to your OP. Members of this board are giving you the biblical evidence to refute the false teaching of the WTS but you are ignoring it.
37818
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I do not know what you mean by WKM?
Be aware that the OP is Jehovahs Witness.
The Jehovah's Witness movement's leaders have taught doctrinal inconsistencies and often make doctrinal reversals, make failed predictions (the OP calls them "guesses"), mistranslate the Bible and so on.
WheresTheTruthInThat
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That is a prophecy about Jesus, not the 'Ghost-God'.
37818
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Well, that doesn't tell me what WKM means.
Sinners against the Holy Ghost... Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. - Matthew 12:31
It is like... Nice knowing you!
I think the OP is a troll. Not here to sincerely discuss WTS teaching. And yeah, that blasphemous comment will probably be their last here