I was born this way...

[Inspector Javert]

Thanks for all that Quantum....the bit you quoted is very much akin to what I believe the Scriptures teach. Well done! :thumbs:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

The entirety of the Orthodox Churches embrace it. That is minimally 1/2 of all Christianity throughout all history. We have a myopic Western viewpoint that the Western Church spoke for all Christian Theology world-without-end for all of history. This is not so.

If you were a Christian in the Byzantine Empire, Russia, Poland, Greece...anywhere East of the Cacaucus Mountains than Original Guilt ala R.C.C. would be a novel concept to you with no "Theological Types" adhering to it.

I disagree with your assessment. I have both Polish & Slovak family that hold to total depravity....so I dont know where your statistics come from.

Subnote: Most Hungarians are RCC

 

[webdog]

The Statement of Faith you agreed to when you signed on as a "Baptist" for this forum:

III. Man

Man is the special creation of God, made in His own image. He created them male and female as the crowning work of His creation. The gift of gender is thus part of the goodness of God's creation. In the beginning man was innocent of sin and was endowed by his Creator with freedom of choice. By his free choice man sinned against God and brought sin into the human race. Through the temptation of Satan man transgressed the command of God, and fell from his original innocence whereby his posterity inherit a nature and an environment inclined toward sin. Therefore, as soon as they are capable of moral action, they become transgressors and are under condemnation. Only the grace of God can bring man into His holy fellowship and enable man to fulfill the creative purpose of God. The sacredness of human personality is evident in that God created man in His own image, and in that Christ died for man; therefore, every person of every race possesses full dignity and is worthy of respect and Christian love.

Genesis 1:26-30; 2:5,7,18-22; 3; 9:6; Psalms 1; 8:3-6; 32:1-5; 51:5; Isaiah 6:5; Jeremiah 17:5; Matthew 16:26; Acts 17:26-31; Romans 1:19-32; 3:10-18,23; 5:6,12,19; 6:6; 7:14-25; 8:14-18,29; 1 Corinthians 1:21-31; 15:19,21-22; Ephesians 2:1-22; Colossians 1:21-22; 3:9-11.​

In fairness there is nothing there that either supports or refutes Augustinianism.

 

[webdog]

If people were actually born without a sin nature, sinless, and not children of Adam, then at least one person in all of history would have made to at least age 21 without sinning. I would like to know who that was!

Why would that have to be the case? This sounds like the probability theories espoused by Darwinists.