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I Was Wrong To Not Vote For Trump

Bro. Curtis

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He has governed like a libertarian. Constitutional SCOTUS picks. Low taxes. Unstoppable economy. Immeasurable damage to the human trafficking industry. Thousands of rescued children. Apparent peace with the NORKS.

I will most likely for him in 2020. I’m already voting pretty much straight GOP in the mids.

Go Donald. Donald the Strong, as he’s known to our new friends in China.
 

Revmitchell

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I will not say I was wrong for not voting for him. I had no knowledge of his current moral choices with regard to women given his past record. I will likely vote for him in 2020 barring any unforeseen revelation.
 

Yeshua1

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I will not say I was wrong for not voting for him. I had no knowledge of his current moral choices with regard to women given his past record. I will likely vote for him in 2020 barring any unforeseen revelation.
You will have a choice between Him and a socialist for president!
 

InTheLight

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Might as well add me to the list. Unless he really screws something up I'm voting for him in 2020. If he can get another pro-life conservative on the Supreme Court I'd probably vote for him even if he did something really stupid.
 

Steven Yeadon

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I am an Independent who is social conservative but for lots of government services. So, I tend to split ticket vote. I will be honest I didn't vote for President as I didn't like either candidate and refused to vote for President. I voted straight Rep for Congress and state jobs though, as I thought Hilary was going to win.

My friends at church told me that Donald Trump should be voted for due to the supreme court alone. I am now thinking I may have been wrong. That my church friends were right.

The only pause I have voting for President Trump in 2020 is that I may split ticket to corral him using a Democratic House. However, for state and local jobs I will always go Rep once RoevWade is done for.

I like President Trumps use of executive powers, except for how mean spirited he is with the bully pulpit and that he isn't more hawkish on foreign policy. Yet, I'm not a big fan of his legislative agenda. This means I'm no *real* Trump supporter, but instead someone who sees using him, warts and all, as an executive is for our benefit as Believers.

I don't like being manipulative, but with the supreme court, an institution I hate for constitutional reasons, going to some semblance of sanity at last, it makes me think that I am just being a weeny. David sure was manipulative if for the benefit of the people of God. It just seems wise to vote for President Trump in 2020 at this point. I should have voted for him in 2016 in retrospect.
 

Reynolds

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I will not say I was wrong for not voting for him. I had no knowledge of his current moral choices with regard to women given his past record. I will likely vote for him in 2020 barring any unforeseen revelation.
I will say it, You were wrong for not voting for him.
 

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I am an Independent who is social conservative but for lots of government services. So, I tend to split ticket vote. I will be honest I didn't vote for President as I didn't like either candidate and refused to vote for President. I voted straight Rep for Congress and state jobs though, as I thought Hilary was going to win. ...

As to not hijack this thread - I have stated a new one: Click here for link:
 

HankD

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if i am alive here on planet earth I will probably vote for him.

I'm a former JFK Democrat. Currently a pro-life small "i" independent with Libertarian leanings.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Might as well add me to the list. Unless he really screws something up I'm voting for him in 2020. If he can get another pro-life conservative on the Supreme Court I'd probably vote for him even if he did something really stupid.
Like a war? God only knows... but I view war as a pathway to socialist distruction. If he can keep the economy growing without that war threat, deport the illegals and raise the dead, he has my vote.
 

Covenanter

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10 Signs You’re Actually Following TRUMPianity Instead of CHRISTianity

In the Era of Trump’s America, I must admit that I hardly recognize the very people who raised me. I was brought up by the Religious Right, and went on to become a faithful foot soldier for the cause of conservative Christianity and right-wing politics until my mid 30’s. However, long gone is their commitment to the values they tried to instill in me, and so much else that once consistently encompassed their collective identity.

Sadly, my old tribe seems to collectively struggle to realize they’ve done exactly what they spent the entire Left Behind series warning me not to do: they have fallen in line behind a worldly leader who arose to power during a time of “wars and rumors of wars,” who did so by falsely pretending to be a Christian, but who would ultimately lead them to follow an entirely new religion.

To help my former right-wing family out, here’s the top 10 signs you’re now following TRUMPianity instead of CHRISTianity:
 

Deacon

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I voted for the Don with caution
I like what he's done so far.
He is not a religion.
He's not a savior.
He was simply the best choice at the time.

10 Signs that you followed after an Obamination

10. You criticize every move of TRUMP, (even crying in disbelief when he was elected) but still swoon over OBAMA telling everyone that “Christians should respect the former president”.
9. You forget “we’re a nation of laws” and somehow forget the obamatable disregard of immigrants under the previous administration.
8. Your church is planning a “patriotic worship service” for the 4th of July. [unfortunately this happened under other administrations as well]
7. You instinctively applauded when O surgically bombed individuals and nations and dismissed what Jesus taught about violence and enemy love as applying to other situations, yet stand up with hatred when Trump uses similar/alternative tactics.
6. You think that mocking bible believers is a sign of being unsaved, but had a “not me” attitude.
5. You thought it was honorable to bow before foreign leaders who oppress Christianity and oppose our nation, but agreed wholeheartedly when he denigrated law enforcement employees.
4. You want the nation to return to “biblical values” setting up socialist policies to caring for the poor without providing jobs for them or any hope to change their position in life.
3. Your church spends one month a year celebrating the story of refugee family who fled their violent homeland and secretly crossed the border to safety, only to return home years later where their son became another unarmed person of color killed by the state’s violent security forces because they “felt threatened”…
2. You claimed Donald Trumps’ election was the result of evil forces, but the minute Barack Obama was sworn into office you started quoting verses about how “God picks a nation’s kings and queens.”
1. You spent the 2010’s saying “character counts” but now say, “We don’t vote for a national pastor.” – Goes both ways, doesn’t it?

Rob​
 

Baptist Believer

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Goes both ways, doesn’t it?
No, it really doesn't. It only works if you assume that those who oppose Trump do it because they are hardcore Democrats who are morally blind to everything their candidate does or has done.

A lot of people who oppose Trump have been longtime independents or Republicans, but recognize that Trump did not run on stated Republican values, and was lacking the knowledge, character, and moral foundation for the position. He also has many enormous conflicts of interest including owing vast sums to banks controlled by Russians -- his own sons were on public record a few years before the election, explaining that the majority of the Trump family funding comes from Russia.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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He also has many enormous conflicts of interest including owing vast sums to banks controlled by Russians -- his own sons were on public record a few years before the election, explaining that the majority of the Trump family funding comes from Russia.
Oh nooooo, you are not supposed to go there are you? That’s, that’s bloody sacred ground you are trodding on!
 

Yeshua1

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No, it really doesn't. It only works if you assume that those who oppose Trump do it because they are hardcore Democrats who are morally blind to everything their candidate does or has done.

A lot of people who oppose Trump have been longtime independents or Republicans, but recognize that Trump did not run on stated Republican values, and was lacking the knowledge, character, and moral foundation for the position. He also has many enormous conflicts of interest including owing vast sums to banks controlled by Russians -- his own sons were on public record a few years before the election, explaining that the majority of the Trump family funding comes from Russia.
Those Republican who are against him are those stuck in the Swamp, as they desire to be more pro with their fellow government than real republicans ... Many of them actually would be better served coming out as being closet Democrats.
There can be little debate that Trump has done far more for the economy than President Obama did over 8 years, that he also is pushing a much more Christian friendly agenda, as shown in his SC appointments, and that he may not always talk and act right, but I dothink he wants to do the right thing. He also sees clearly that if we do not secure our borders, than there will be jsut chaos in the future, as we do really need to place"America first".
 

kyredneck

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Donald the Strong, as he’s known to our new friends in China.

Hah, first I knew of that, but true, he is strong and smart and worldly wise and energetic and loves his country and wants the best for it, and could go on but you get the point.

I voted for Kasaich in the primary (polls rightly showed Trump with yuge lead here in KY) but voted Trump in Nov. Will do so again 2020. He's already far exceeded my expectations of him several times over, and he ain't even got a good start yet!
 

Bro. Curtis

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No, it really doesn't. It only works if you assume that those who oppose Trump do it because they are hardcore Democrats who are morally blind to everything their candidate does or has done.

A lot of people who oppose Trump have been longtime independents or Republicans, but recognize that Trump did not run on stated Republican values, and was lacking the knowledge, character, and moral foundation for the position. He also has many enormous conflicts of interest including owing vast sums to banks controlled by Russians -- his own sons were on public record a few years before the election, explaining that the majority of the Trump family funding comes from Russia.
He’s not a republican. Probably his best asset.
 

Baptist Believer

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Those Republican who are against him are those stuck in the Swamp, as they desire to be more pro with their fellow government than real republicans ... Many of them actually would be better served coming out as being closet Democrats.
Here is one of the fruits of Trumpism, you cannot disagree with Trump without Trumpists claiming that you embrace corruption (aka, the Swamp) and that they are not real Republicans.

Regarding “the Swamp,” have you been paying attention to Scott Pruitt’s dozen or more scandals at the EPA? Our President doesn’t seem to have an issue with it. Seems that the Swamp is just fine as long as it is stocked with HIS rats and alligators.

...as we do really need to place"America first".
Like many social theorists, you boil everything down to the economic prosperity of the nation, assuming that that is all there is to our country. However, the real America has historically been a nation of high ideals and principles of the rule of law and justice for the oppressed. While the United States has consistently come up sort of fully living up to our national ideals and calling, we have been steadily advancing toward liberty and justice for all, with every man and woman equal in the eyes of the law. We have embraced freedom in the Bill of Rights and embraced diversity of thought and action which has strengthened our national character and made us stronger by the testing of ideas, discarding the ones that do not work and embracing new strategies for the common good.

The “America First” rhetoric is a throwback to the isolationist impulses of the past that undermined the security of liberty around the world and our own national security.

Trump’s America First policy is short-sighted, proudly ignorant of history, and will lead our nation into economic ruin. We are throwing away everything we have gained over the last 70 years.
 

Bro. Curtis

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Here is one of the fruits of Trumpism, you cannot disagree with Trump without Trumpists claiming that you embrace corruption (aka, the Swamp) and that they are not real Republicans.

Regarding “the Swamp,” have you been paying attention to Scott Pruitt’s dozen or more scandals at the EPA? Our President doesn’t seem to have an issue with it. Seems that the Swamp is just fine as long as it is stocked with HIS rats and alligators.


Like many social theorists, you boil everything down to the economic prosperity of the nation, assuming that that is all there is to our country. However, the real America has historically been a nation of high ideals and principles of the rule of law and justice for the oppressed. While the United States has consistently come up sort of fully living up to our national ideals and calling, we have been steadily advancing toward liberty and justice for all, with every man and woman equal in the eyes of the law. We have embraced freedom in the Bill of Rights and embraced diversity of thought and action which has strengthened our national character and made us stronger by the testing of ideas, discarding the ones that do not work and embracing new strategies for the common good.

The “America First” rhetoric is a throwback to the isolationist impulses of the past that undermined the security of liberty around the world and our own national security.

Trump’s America First policy is short-sighted, proudly ignorant of history, and will lead our nation into economic ruin. We are throwing away everything we have gained over the last 70 years.
Got as far as yer first sentence. I appreciate it being first, it meant there would be nothing following worth reading.
 
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