ICE Ready to Deport Approximately 1M Illegal Aliens_Poll: Majority Support if Congress Won’t Act

[kyredneck]

Do I support the ICE raids? Yes I do.

Ditto. (and it's a fraction of those that have already gone through due process. They've been told to leave but they remain)

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

To simplify it, off the top of my head:

• Even with the best of lists, there are bound to be some false positives. How many citizen Garcias and Villanuevas are going to be swept up? How many wrong doors are going to be broken in because ICE comes calling on the deportable Garcias and finds the Wisenewskis instead?
  
• Will you be happy when an ICE agent asks you to verify your status? Lots of these deportees are not from south of the Rio Bravo. There are Irish and folks for the Former Soviet Union in the mix.

Squire, you raise an important point. Many opposed the police-state travel restrictions imposed after 9/11. Now, citizens could be subject to more measures inappropriate for the law-abiding, though the Mueller Investigation suggests this is already a significant problem.

That someone could actually be wrongfully deported through such measures seems unlikely, except in cases of serious misidentification. But a person can already be arrested for something he had nothing to do with, even tried and convicted based on faulty witness testimony.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

How many were and are ticked off about TSA? And they want to expand the same philosophy beyond the airports.

Squire, you raise an important point. Many opposed the police-state travel restrictions imposed after 9/11. Now, citizens could be subject to more measures inappropriate for the law-abiding, though the Mueller Investigation suggests this is already a significant problem.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

I'm not unsympathetic to the situation you describe, though the measure seems far more appropriate in this case. In the airports, they are targeting and inconveniencing everyone, sometimes seriously, hoping to prevent a possible terrorist.

However, here they are directly targeting definite illegals but may incidentally "catch" an innocent in the process. There is no good reason this should go beyond inconveniencing the occasional innocent, at least no more so than our system already inconveniences someone when searching for a criminal.

How many were and are ticked off about TSA? And they want to expand the same philosophy beyond the airports.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

My concern is the seeming glee that this news brought about.

I'm not unsympathetic to the situation you describe, though the measure seems far more appropriate in this case.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

My concern is the seeming glee that this news brought about.

Understood. I'm sure I should be more ashamed of the way I feel concerning certain things in that regard, including the way Trump trolls the hate-filled fake news media who helped create him. God knows it is oh so hard to resist a Grinchish smile over their stealing their own antiChristmas.