If God Is A Spirit Only, What Image Is Man's?

[percho]

You're either watching too much Kenneth Copeland or reading Mormon literature.

Elohim is the plural form of elowahh, the root of which is ALH, meaning "to swear," and describes one that stands in a covenant relationship ratified by an oath. Strong's #433 - אֱלֹהַּ - Old Testament Hebrew Lexical Dictionary - StudyLight.org .

So man was made plural, male and female, and they are made to live and work together in a covenant relationship ratified by an oath, iow, marriage.

God, one God, three Persons. Man, one flesh, two persons. (Three if you count the Spirit of God)
The Son and the Spirit proceed from the Father. The wo man was taken from man, but that is not what is meant by one flesh.

They did not become one flesh until the ceremony and the pronouncement of the oath to ratify their covenant relationship. God brought the woman to the man, and in the company of God and witnesses the man entered into covenant with the woman, and the woman got her name, from the oath:

"This now bone of my bone, and flesh of my flesh. She shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man."
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There is the image of the invisible God.

Your thoughts?

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Gen 26,27 KJV

What happened to the likeness? ? Before God created Adam did he do so with the old man and new man. on mind?

John 3:6 KJV That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

John 3:3,5 KJV Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him. Heb 2:6-8

The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 1 Cor 15:47

Interestingly the only other place I have found the phrase, after the likeness of God used is here and is relative to what we speak.

James 3:8,9 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

 

[percho]

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John 3:6

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; Is that the image of the first man Adam the living soul?

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn out of the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. Col 1:18
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Rom 8:29
Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward (What is this chapter about?) that which is spiritual. 1 Cor 15:46

That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Is that the image of the resurrected Jesus Christ the Son of God?

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 1 Cor 15:49

Was this foreordained before the foundation of the world?

 

[Aaron]

What happened to the likeness?

It was corrupted.

Before God created Adam did he do so with the old man and new man. on mind?

I'm not sure what you"re asking, but this world was created for Christ and the work of Redemption He would accomplish.

 

[Hark]

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John 3:6

That which is born of the flesh is flesh; Is that the image of the first man Adam the living soul?

The first image was terrestrial as Adam was a living soul in the terrestrial flesh. The resurrected body will be celestial as explained here in 1 Corinthians 15:42-52.

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn out of the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. Col 1:18
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Rom 8:29
Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward (What is this chapter about?) that which is spiritual. 1 Cor 15:46

That chapter is about explaining the difference between our present day bodies & our soon to be resurrected body in Christ.

That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Is that the image of the resurrected Jesus Christ the Son of God?

Yes after His likeness.

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 1 Cor 15:49

Was this foreordained before the foundation of the world?

Yes.. but prophesied at the fall of man when God punished Satan for deceiving the woman.. In this way, man now knows what is outside of God that is good & the will of God to never be tempted to sin again in leaving God and all that is good.

 

[37818]

So there are scripture testifying to God the Father that can be seen in Heaven.

How is God seen even in Heaven? John 14:6, now 1 Timothy 2:5. Where is the exception?

 

[37818]

It was corrupted.

Genesis 9:6, "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man."
This is what makes killing a man murder.

 

[Hark]

How is God seen even in Heaven? John 14:6, now 1 Timothy 2:5. Where is the exception?

When Jesus was in Heaven before His incarnation, He testified that He has seen the Father per John 1:18 & John 6:46

So it stands to reason that in that day when we are in Heaven, we will see the Father also because then we will not need Jesus to mediate for us for the Father loves us to meet with us face to face.

John 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. 26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: 27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. 28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father..

Since He is taking us to the Father in Heaven where Jesus is now is how I read His message here that we will see the Father too.

 

[Brightfame52]

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Makes you wonder what image was man created after when he was done in His image, doesn't it? That should give you pause.

The Son, the Man Christ Jesus the Mediator who is God/Man. He was one of the Godhead who Created Adam. Do you believe Jesus is also God ?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

No. The Holy Spirit being the Spirit of the Father when Jesus was on earth before His ascension ; Matthew 10:20 & now the Spirit of Christ per Romans 8:9 does not have a body nor need one either. When God the Father agreed with the Son to make man in "our" image" and after "our" likeness is when the Spirit of God did so in compliance to the father's will & the Son's request..



Who is Jesus having the express image of His Person? The Father's. So not invisible as if He cannot be seen having no body but just not presently seen.

Hebrews 1:3, ". . . being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, . . ."

How do you apply these verses below regarding the Son declaring He has seen the Father?

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. KJV

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. ~ KJV

I submit to you that "invisible" in scripture is just referring to not presently seen because invisible was also applied to Jesus Christ in Heaven, our future King.

1 Timothy 1:16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. 17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. ~ KJV

So there are scripture testifying to God the Father that can be seen in Heaven.

Do you see God / Jesus in the face and eyes of your fellow human being? Do you see God in nature.. I mean even with instinct? Do you see God in yourself?

Yesterday it snowed... everything was pure white... beautiful! Was God there?!?

 

[Hark]

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The Son, the Man Christ Jesus the Mediator who is God/Man. He was one of the Godhead who Created Adam. Do you believe Jesus is also God ?

I believe Jesus is God and that He was the One that made the request to the Father to create man in "our" image and after "our" likeness whereby the Father agreed so that when God as One created man in His image, it was done with Two Other Witnesses to establish that word in creation of man for how everything was made by the Word of God; hence the Son of God..

 

[Hark]

Do you see God / Jesus in the face and eyes of your fellow human being? Do you see God in nature.. I mean even with instinct? Do you see God in yourself?

Yesterday it snowed... everything was pure white... beautiful! Was God there?!?

Since God loved us to send His Son to die for us while we were yet sinners, and Jesus say to the saved that what we do to the least of the brethren, we do it to Jesus, thanks to Jesus, I can understand His commandment to love our enemies because one day they may become one of us & thus we are to be careful with His help, not to seek revenge on someone still a sinner but may become a future brother or sister. We are to suffer with His help as He suffered per 1 Peter 2:20-25

 

[Brightfame52]

I believe Jesus is God and that He was the One that made the request to the Father to create man in "our" image and after "our" likeness whereby the Father agreed so that when God as One created man in His image, it was done with Two Other Witnesses to establish that word in creation of man for how everything was made by the Word of God; hence the Son of God..

Ultimately being Created in Gods Image is fulfilled when one is born again 2 Cor 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

 

[Hark]

Ultimately being Created in Gods Image is fulfilled when one is born again 2 Cor 3:17-18
17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Moreso the Lord Jesus Christ as the Spirit of the Lord does in according to His will which happens to be the same will as the Father's. In other words, scripture reproves how you are applying His words when the Holy Spirit in all that He does, the words, the gifts, & the fruits to give the credit & glory to Jesus Chrust.

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. ~ KJV

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:... 11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God. KJV

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. KJV

We are His workmanship as the Holy Spirit give that credit to the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. ~ KJV

Since scripture & the indwelling Holy Ghost gives the credit to Jesus Christ, the author & finisher of our faith Hebrews 12:1-2 then so should we as the indwelling Spirit & scripture is leading us to do.

 

[Yeshua1]

Then when the request was made for the creation of man.. why was the request to make man in the "our" image? Genesis 1:26

And yet when performing the act of creation, it was as the One God as creating man in His image in Genesis 1:27 ?

Why did Jesus say we will see the Father one day where we will not need the Son to ask Him for us?

John 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. 26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: 27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. 28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. KJV

Why did Jesus say no man has seen the Father but Jesus has seen the Father?

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. KJV

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. KJV

Something to ask Him about.

NOT any physical image of God,

Then when the request was made for the creation of man.. why was the request to make man in the "our" image? Genesis 1:26

And yet when performing the act of creation, it was as the One God as creating man in His image in Genesis 1:27 ?

Why did Jesus say we will see the Father one day where we will not need the Son to ask Him for us?

John 16:25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. 26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: 27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God. 28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. KJV

Why did Jesus say no man has seen the Father but Jesus has seen the Father?

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. KJV

John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. KJV

Something to ask Him about.

We were NOT made in the physical image of God, as he is Spirit, and so the image was those attributes that we can share with God, such as having love, emotions, relating to God etc!

 

[Hark]

NOT any physical image of God,

We were NOT made in the physical image of God, as he is Spirit, and so the image was those attributes that we can share with God, such as having love, emotions, relating to God etc!

What did Jesus meant when He'd said Abraham had seen Him & he was glad in that day?

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. ~ KJV

I believe Jesus was referring to this day when Abraham & Sarah got the news from the Lord that she would have a son. I point out that Abraham fixed a meal for the Lord & His companions & He did eat & drank in Genesis 18:1-8

That was the Lord Jesus Christ with a celestial body as the Son of God before His incarnation as the Son of Man as He did eat & drank with Abraham.

So when the Word of God asks the Father to make man in "our" image & after "our" likeness within the One Godhead, not only did Jesus had a celestial body, but so did God the Father, but when in agreeing with the Son's request, the One God created man in His image as obviously the Spirit of God was in compliance to the Father's will per the Son's request since nothing was made without Him as all things were made by Him per His request in creation. John 1:1-3 & John 1:10-11

By His grace & by His help, that is how you align the truths in His words in rightly dividing the word of truth.

 

[Yeshua1]

What did Jesus meant when He'd said Abraham had seen Him & he was glad in that day?

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. ~ KJV

I believe Jesus was referring to this day when Abraham & Sarah got the news from the Lord that she would have a son. I point out that Abraham fixed a meal for the Lord & His companions & He did eat & drank in Genesis 18:1-8

That was the Lord Jesus Christ with a celestial body as the Son of God before His incarnation as the Son of Man as He did eat & drank with Abraham.

So when the Word of God asks the Father to make man in "our" image & after "our" likeness within the One Godhead, not only did Jesus had a celestial body, but so did God the Father, but when in agreeing with the Son's request, the One God created man in His image as obviously the Spirit of God was in compliance to the Father's will per the Son's request since nothing was made without Him as all things were made by Him per His request in creation. John 1:1-3 & John 1:10-11

By His grace & by His help, that is how you align the truths in His words in rightly dividing the word of truth.

Did Jesus always have a body in the OT, or just when he came to earth to speak to man?