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If Guns Kill People...............

Alcott

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If Guns Kill People...............

then guns can bury the victims and give them a 21-people salute.
 

TCassidy

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Texas ~
authorized to carry concealed ~ carry it concealed, don't unholster it.
If the venue is on private property they property owners can forbid the carry of any firearm.

government property/building ~ not allowed, so if the gun show is govt. property, not allowed to carry.
Nope. Texas Public Law forbids the government from denying carry except in courts, jails, and a few other specific places.

intend to fit for a new holster ~ carry gun in empty (don't bring the ammo in with you).
All gun shows I frequent require a firearm to be in a lock container.

intend to sell as walk around merchant ~ carry in full view, empty of ammo or ammo on your person.
Required to be in a locked container.
 

Happy

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If the venue is on private property they property owners can forbid the carry of any firearm.

No kidding PRIVATE owners have the right to dictate the "rules", (family law), on their property.

Nope. Texas Public Law forbids the government from denying carry except in courts, jails, and a few other specific places.

Yep, what I said that applies to government property....then you say nope, then describe SOME of the government property.... :Rolleyes

All gun shows I frequent require a firearm to be in a lock container.

So? No one is talking about "all gun shows you personally frequent". People are sharing their knowledge and "THEIR" experiences!

Required to be in a locked container.

Perhaps where you have attended, but that does not apply to every gun show. Locked "container"? Nope, I have seen fire arms at gun shows, as a rifle slung over the arm by its strap.
 

TCassidy

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Yep, what I said that applies to government property....then you say nope, then describe SOME of the government property.
Let's see. You said:
Happy said: ↑
government property/building ~ not allowed, so if the gun show is govt. property, not allowed to carry.
Which is WRONG.

So I said
Nope. Texas Public Law forbids the government from denying carry except in courts, jails, and a few other specific places.
Now let me dumb that down a bit for you.

You say carry is "not allowed" in "government property/building" "so if the gun show is govt. property, not allowed to carry."

WRONG AGAIN. If the gun show is on "government property/building" then Texas Public Law FORBIDS disallowing (that means "to not allow") the lawful carry of firearms either concealed or openly.

So, unless you can show me a gun show being held in a court room, or in the county jail, (or a few other specific places like the protected area of an airport or the protected area of a police station) just admit you were wrong and get it over with.
 

Reynolds

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Even carried firearms? I can understand the requirement for guns that are going in for service, trade, etc...
Yep. Its crazy. I did go into a shop today that had replaced the "no loaded weapons" sign with a "lawful concealed carry welcome" sign. First I have seen.
 

Reynolds

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No kidding PRIVATE owners have the right to dictate the "rules", (family law), on their property.



Yep, what I said that applies to government property....then you say nope, then describe SOME of the government property.... :Rolleyes



So? No one is talking about "all gun shows you personally frequent". People are sharing their knowledge and "THEIR" experiences!



Perhaps where you have attended, but that does not apply to every gun show. Locked "container"? Nope, I have seen fire arms at gun shows, as a rifle slung over the arm by its strap.
The rules at gun shows are determined by the company running the show. That's what I have been told by a promoter anyway.
 

Rolfe

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Yep. Its crazy. I did go into a shop today that had replaced the "no loaded weapons" sign with a "lawful concealed carry welcome" sign. First I have seen.

I am curious. Is this "no loaded weapons" thing common statewide? That is to ask, is it more common the nearer to Atlanta (profile had you from Georgia) the store is located?
 

Happy

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The rules at gun shows are determined by the company running the show. That's what I have been told by a promoter anyway.

Building owners typically have "their" rules or laws the Promoter or otherwise, "renter" of the facility, must agree to abide by what the owner is obligated to abide by.

If the promoter owns the property, then sure, his option.
 

Happy

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Let's see. You said:

Which is WRONG.

So I said
Now let me dumb that down a bit for you.

You say carry is "not allowed" in "government property/building" "so if the gun show is govt. property, not allowed to carry."

WRONG AGAIN. If the gun show is on "government property/building" then Texas Public Law FORBIDS disallowing (that means "to not allow") the lawful carry of firearms either concealed or openly.

So, unless you can show me a gun show being held in a court room, or in the county jail, (or a few other specific places like the protected area of an airport or the protected area of a police station) just admit you were wrong and get it over with.

Let me dumb this down for you....

The government abides by the LAW, and holds the public entering their owned or rented property and buildings to the LAW.

YOU even noted a FEW govt buildings, and then want to argue against it....

I don't need to SHOW you anything. No one was talking about your ignorant suggestion of a GUN SHOW in a court room. The conversation evolved about WHERE a person COULD or COULD NOT carry their sidearm.

Perhaps you should show your point by LISTING Government buildings YOU CAN waltz around packing your gun!
 

TCassidy

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No one was talking about your ignorant suggestion of a GUN SHOW in a court room.
That is EXACTLY what you were talking about. You said:

Happy said: ↑
government property/building ~ not allowed, so if the gun show is govt. property, not allowed to carry.

Which is WRONG.

You said carry is "not allowed" in "government property/building" "so if the gun show is govt. property, not allowed to carry."

You are wrong. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. It is obvious to the rest of the Texans on this forum that you are talking through your hat! LOL! ROFLOL!
 

TCassidy

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Perhaps you should show your point by LISTING Government buildings YOU CAN waltz around packing your gun!
All of them except courts, jails, protected area of an airport, and protected area of a police station. State Universities are presently excluded but that will change September 1st.

All government owned venues leased to promoters for gun shows cannot deny legal carry in the venue.
 

HankD

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Dr Tom haven't you been a law enforcement officer at some time in your life?

HankD
 

TCassidy

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Dr Tom haven't you been a law enforcement officer at some time in your life?

HankD
Yes. Post Certified Sheriff's Deputy, Board Certified Firearms Instructor, Board Certified Pistol Instructor, Board Certified Range Safety Officer, Department of Justice Certified Firearms Safety Instructor, Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor.

Licensed to carry in Texas, Arizona, Utah, Florida, and California, plus 34 other states which have reciprocity with one or more of the above.

I have been instructing both Law Enforcement and civilians on legal carry for over 50 years.
 

HankD

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Yes. Post Certified Sheriff's Deputy, Board Certified Firearms Instructor, Board Certified Pistol Instructor, Board Certified Range Safety Officer, Department of Justice Certified Firearms Safety Instructor, Law Enforcement Firearms Instructor.

Licensed to carry in Texas, Arizona, Utah, Florida, and California, plus 34 other states which have reciprocity with one or more of the above.

I have been instructing both Law Enforcement and civilians on legal carry for over 50 years.
Great, thank you for your service as a LEO and LEO Instructor.

HankD
 

Rolfe

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Now let me dumb that down a bit for you.

Let me dumb this down for you....

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InTheLight

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You are wrong. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. It is obvious to the rest of the Texans on this forum that you are talking through your hat! LOL! ROFLOL!

Not just Texans.


Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.
 

Rolfe

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Yeah, I was wondering if those credentials with addresses were going to be posted very long. Not very smart putting them in public view.
 
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