If it wasn't for alcohol,

[Mexdeaf]

...Calvin, or KJVO discussions, this board would cease to exist. It used to be we could find some common ground and some nice things to say about each other, but here lately, not so much.

 

[saturneptune]

...Calvin, or KJVO discussions, this board would cease to exist. It used to be we could find some common ground and some nice things to say about each other, but here lately, not so much.

I totally agree, and really, all three have been beat to death, and cause nothing but anger and meanness. Anyone has the right to their opinion in all three areas, but has no right to impose them on others.

I do not drink, but do not believe the Bible teaches abstinence.

I believe those who make an issue of KJVO have the mind of a hatrack.

As far as God's sovereignty, it will never be settled this side of heaven, because none of us understands the innermost workings of the Lord. Jaws can and will flap from here to the end of the world.

 

[Alcott]

...Calvin, or KJVO discussions, this board would cease to exist. It used to be we could find some common ground and some nice things to say about each other, but here lately, not so much.

Who are you badmouthing now? :laugh:

 

[Salty]

... and really, all three have been beat to death, ...

keep in mind that we constantaly have new members on this board - so even if an old subject comes up - it is new for many others.

Anyone has the right to their opinion in all three areas, but has no right to impose them on others. .

Depends on how you look at it. That boy who gave the Lords prayer at graduation - did he have a "right" to impose it on the audience. He truly believed that what he did was right. Impose all you want - but I'm liable to do the same as well.

I do not drink, but do not believe the Bible teaches abstinence.

I believe those who make an issue of KJVO have the mind of a hatrack.

These come under the heading of "dont confuse me with the facts - I have made up my mind"

 

[Deacon]

If it wasn't for alcohol, Calvin, or KJVO discussions, this board would cease to exist. It used to be we could find some common ground and some nice things to say about each other, but here lately, not so much.

We could solve the KJVO and C/A problems if they'd quickly down a six-pack before posting.

Rob

 

[InTheLight]

We could solve the KJVO and C/A problems if they'd quickly down a six-pack before posting.

Rob

Yes......but.....
Domestic or Imported?
Light or Regular?
Lager, Pilsner, or Pale Ale?
Bottled or canned?

 

[Havensdad]

It is truly sad, to me, that the issue of alcohol is more important to some people than the Gospel of Christ. They would rather beat up other Christians for doing something THAT JESUS DID, than spend their time taking the Gospel to the highways and byways...

 

[saturneptune]

It is truly sad, to me, that the issue of alcohol is more important to some people than the Gospel of Christ. They would rather beat up other Christians for doing something THAT JESUS DID, than spend their time taking the Gospel to the highways and byways...

Forget for the moment the gluttons and the gossips, one thing I notice within a church is those who yak loudest against alcohol are never at visitation, never go on a mission trip, and are seldom at revivals. Their message is flapping their jaws on Sunday mornings in the hallways of the church. These are the same people that stuff their gut at pot lucks but never help set it up or stay to clean up. They are the same people that complain that so and so did not visit them in the hospital but never lift a finger to visit others. These are the same people who complain about the empty pews but never tell others about Christ or ask a neighbor to church. These are the same people who ride the van and complain about the time the van arrives or the temperature in the van, but never volunteered to drive others in their younger days. These are the same people who never show up on Wednesday night except when there is a business meeting that might decide something that will not go their way, like the color of the new carpet.

This is the local church dead weight, and if I had my way, everyone of them would be disfellowshipped.

 

[Baptist4life]

Forget for the moment the gluttons and the gossips, one thing I notice within a church is those who yak loudest against alcohol are never at visitation, never go on a mission trip, and are seldom at revivals. Their message is flapping their jaws on Sunday mornings in the hallways of the church. These are the same people that stuff their gut at pot lucks but never help set it up or stay to clean up. They are the same people that complain that so and so did not visit them in the hospital but never lift a finger to visit others. These are the same people who complain about the empty pews but never tell others about Christ or ask a neighbor to church. These are the same people who ride the van and complain about the time the van arrives or the temperature in the van, but never volunteered to drive others in their younger days. These are the same people who never show up on Wednesday night except when there is a business meeting that might decide something that will not go their way, like the color of the new carpet.

This is the local church dead weight, and if I had my way, everyone of them would be disfellowshipped.

Yep! That^^^^^^ could all be solved if they'd just start drinking!!! :laugh::laugh:

 

[preacher4truth]

Forget for the moment the gluttons and the gossips, one thing I notice within a church is those who yak loudest against alcohol are never at visitation, never go on a mission trip, and are seldom at revivals. Their message is flapping their jaws on Sunday mornings in the hallways of the church. These are the same people that stuff their gut at pot lucks but never help set it up or stay to clean up. They are the same people that complain that so and so did not visit them in the hospital but never lift a finger to visit others. These are the same people who complain about the empty pews but never tell others about Christ or ask a neighbor to church. These are the same people who ride the van and complain about the time the van arrives or the temperature in the van, but never volunteered to drive others in their younger days. These are the same people who never show up on Wednesday night except when there is a business meeting that might decide something that will not go their way, like the color of the new carpet.

This is the local church dead weight, and if I had my way, everyone of them would be disfellowshipped.

LOL!!!!!!!! Tell us what you really think SN!!!! :laugh: :tongue3:

As a matter of fact, PREACH this on Sunday and your last sentence will come to fruition!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh: :thumbsup:

 

[kyredneck]

...the gossips....

....have done far more damage to innocent unsuspecting folks than casual responsible drinking ever has. Period.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Yes......but.....
Domestic or Imported?
Light or Regular?
Lager, Pilsner, or Pale Ale?
Bottled or canned?

I'm an American...so I buy Yingling (lager) ...they are the oldest American brewery & the prodect isn't bad.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

It is truly sad, to me, that the issue of alcohol is more important to some people than the Gospel of Christ. They would rather beat up other Christians for doing something THAT JESUS DID, than spend their time taking the Gospel to the highways and byways...

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

 

[Oldtimer]

keep in mind that we constantaly have new members on this board - so even if an old subject comes up - it is new for many others.

Depends on how you look at it. That boy who gave the Lords prayer at graduation - did he have a "right" to impose it on the audience. He truly believed that what he did was right. Impose all you want - but I'm liable to do the same as well.

Reminds me of a question I've been pondering for a while now.

True, new members bring up old subjects that have been "discussed" many, many times. That is as it should be. Especially with those new to the church and those seeking answers to new questions that have arisen in their walk of faith.

That said, why do long term members of this board (some with thousands of posts to their record) continually bring up the same old hot-button topics over and over again?

FWIW -- Sometimes it's interesting to look up the posting history (oldest to newest) when a long time member asks a question -- especially on the hot button topics -- as if they don't have the answer. As if they haven't asked it before. As if they've forgotten how many times they've "debated" the same topic in the past.

Even thought I've been here only a short period of time, relatively speaking, why would (should) I feel the need to ask, yet another women wearing pants question, for example. As a layman, trying to grow in the word, shouldn't my posts be, as a general rule of thumb:

a. Answer questions, as best I can, of those joining here after me.

b. Ask questions of those joining before me that arise from a deepening study of His word and its application?

Maybe this is just another deadhorse question that's been beaten to death before, too. :type: And, I'm due a :tonofbricks: for asking.

 

[Mexdeaf]

That said, why do long term members of this board (some with thousands of posts to their record) continually bring up the same old hot-button topics over and over again?

Even thought I've been here only a short period of time, relatively speaking, why would (should) I feel the need to ask, yet another women wearing pants question, for example. As a layman, trying to grow in the word, shouldn't my posts be, as a general rule of thumb:

a. Answer questions, as best I can, of those joining here after me.

b. Ask questions of those joining before me that arise from a deepening study of His word and its application?

Maybe this is just another deadhorse question that's been beaten to death before, too. :type: And, I'm due a :tonofbricks: for asking.

Good question, Oldtimer. I've often wondered the same thing.