Originally posted by Matt Black:
No. Not really. You've demonstrated your false beliefs about the Trinity and Jesus Christ time and again here. Retract those, and we'll get somewhere . [/QB]
I can easily imagine how Inquisitors accused the True Believers as Heretics.
I firmly believe the deity of Jesus Christ.
I do not insist on Trinity, but accept it as the best expression on the relationship of Godheads. What I insist on is that we should stay with the Bible expression only. I don't claim any doctrine or theory other than Bible itself.
However, for easy understanding, I would agree that Trinity is the best expression by human logic and by human words.
As for Modalism, I disagree because it portrays Jesus and God working as One-Man-Show, especially at the time of Cross.
However, I do not rule out that there can be any True Believers who were born again, but claim Modalism. In other words, there is a possibility that there can be true believers who believe in the Modalism. I don't condemn them very much because they don't deny the deity of Jesus Christ, which is the crucial point of all doctrines.
Again, I would believe that Trinity is the best expression of Godheads, even though my main belief is simply staying with Bible expressions only in any situation.
For example, I believe KJV is correct in 1 Tim 3:16 where it says " God was manifest in flesh" which clearly reveal the deity of Jesus Christ.
I denounce any modern versions which state:
"He appeared in flesh"
Another example, I believe that 1 John 5:7 is the part of Genuine Bible.
As I mentioned above, you can notice how strongly I denfended Johannine Comma at the thread.
I defend " for there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one"
I denounce any modern version which omit this Johannine Comma.
Can there be better clause to defend Trinity than this verse?
Do you believe that this 1 John 5:7 is the part of the genuine Bible? If you don't, you may disbelieve Trinity.
The main problem with doubting my belief is that some people like RC do not know how to believe the deity of Jesus Christ without calling Mary as Mother of God, because they have been brain washed by RC theories so much.
I do believe the deity of Jesus Christ, but do not call Mary as Mother of God, because she was a sinner forgiven by grace thru Jesus' sacrifice and the creature used as a pot by the Creator. Calling a pot as Mother of Creator is a non-sense and therefore Heb 7:2-3 says Melchisedec doesn't have a mother as Son of God doesn't. Melchisedec was the Pre-Incarnate Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ came into this world as an extension of Melchisedec. Otherwise no one can explain where Melchisedec is now. If one doesn't know that Melchisedec is Pre-Incarnate Jesus, such person doesn't know the meaning of the Incarnation and eventually the mainstream of the Bible itself.
I hope your misunderstanding can be resolved as far as my belief on Trinity.