The revelation of Jesus is his second coming!
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If tongues were to cease at the end of the world, why would Paul need to mention it?
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1689Dave
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No, Paul says it will also confirm us until the end (the second coming).
The Second Coming is NOT the final Eternal State!
1689Dave
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The eternal state follows in the new heavens and earth.
Which is after the second coming 1000 years, when Jesus turns the Kingdom over to the Father!
1689Dave
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You are adding to Revelation................a big no no.
You are misunderstanding eschatology, another "no no"
1689Dave
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You are importing phariseeism into Revelation.
No, for many of the ECF, taught by the Apostles, held to preMil views!
1689Dave
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But the Nicene Creed was Amillennial as the rest of the church was through history.
"He shall come again, with glory, to judge both the living and the dead; Whose kingdom shall have no end."
The position changed mainly thru efforts of Augustine and the Church of Rome!
1689Dave
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It still remains, Jesus taught Amillennialism.
Nope, both Him and Paul taught a version of premil!
1689Dave
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Not in the least.
John taught it also! Far more evidence to support my case than yours!
Out of the mouths of 2-3 witnesses!
1689Dave
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Where did Jesus, Paul, or John teach a physical kingdom of sin instead of a spiritual kingdom of faith?
Right now we are in that spiritual Kingdom, but one day that will become physical!
We cannot be in the Messianic Age of the OT prophets yet, as still have wars, death, disease etc!
1689Dave
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You want a kingdom of sight and not one of faith. But Paul says whatever is not of faith is sin.
I want one under the messiah as promised, with no more wars, famines, sickness, and all worship just true God!
1689Dave
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After the last day in the new heavens and earth. There's war sin and death in the so called millennium.
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