LeBuick said:
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Separate thought, what changed with Jesus between versus 17 and 27?
Jn 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Jn 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
Notes of John Wesley;
20:17 Touch me not - Or rather, Do not cling to me (for she held him by the feet,) Mt 28:9. Detain me not now. You will have other opportunities of conversing with me. For I am not ascended to my Father - I have not yet left the world. But go immediately to my brethren - Thus does he intimate in the strongest manner the forgiveness of their fault, even without ever mentioning it. These exquisite touches, which every where abound in the evangelical writings, show how perfectly Christ knew our frame. I ascend - He anticipates it in his thoughts, and so speaks of it as a thing already present. To my Father and your Father,
to my God and your God - This
uncommon expression shows that the only - begotten Son has all kind of fellowship with God. And a fellowship with God the Father, some way resembling his own, he bestows upon his brethren.
Yet he does not say, Our God: for no creature can be raised to an equality with him: but my God and your God:
intimating that the Father is his in a singular and incommunicable manner; and ours through him, in such a kind as a creature is capable of.
Seems John Wesley believe also, that some way, Christ needed to go to the Father
first before the sacrifice was complete. It seems that Wesley believed that God to Jesus was "My God" and to His apostles "Your God" instead of "our" God, indicating that he had a special way to be with God and we had to go through Him to get to God.
I can't find where any of the other well known theologians spoke on the matter.
BBob,
