If... When would slavery have ended?

RSR,

Anyhow, Apartide would not have ended in South Africa if it were not for the US pressure, at least not when it did. It was due mostly to African American concern about the issue. Only American blacks could wield that kind of power. Even now we are contributing millions to AIDS in Africa. I bet the African American influence drives that as well. So even after Joseph's enslavement, he has saved his brothers. What was meant for evil, God has used for good. But the point is, when Joseph and his brothers saw the hand of God in it all, they were unified, and they built a nation together. We are all brothers. The time for unity has come. Let the dead bury the dead. We should embrace the future together and leave the past in the past.

 

RSR,

You are to intelligent to compare pueblo cannibalism to the Donner party!

My point is not to establish our superiority, but to deconstruct the idea that other races and cultures are above the same old stuff. "there is nothing new under the sun, all things continue on as they have since the beginning." I feel the only superiorty a culture can claim is that which results from its true following Of Jesus. His way is always the superior way, when it is truly followed.

RSR said "I think it is clear that some cultures are more prone to racism than are others"

This is situational, and not inherent to any particular culture. All cultures are suscetible to the same old sins.

 

rsr-"I agree with you there. Even cultures that claim to follow Christ are nonetheless subject to error and evil. Surely Western civilization has shown this to be true because "cultural Christians" often behave no better than — and sometimes worse than — "heathens.""

Which is why I said specifically when they TRULY follow Christ. But the western world has blessed the world more than any other society also.

You have to work on Sat? Bummer!

I appreciated it to, and enjoyed it.

Till next time!

 

I believe that sooner rather than later---slave power would have been rendered "obsolete" with growing industrial/mechanical revolution

Scenerio in thought

Plantation farmer purchases his first John Deere tractor---realizes that his new purchase can plow, plant, cultivate, and combine 4 rows of corn

He "weighs" the pros & cons

and then concludes

I don't need to maintain 300 slaves when all I need is this one piece of equipment---which is easier??? Feeding 300 hungry tummies 3 hot meals a day----or pouring 10 gallons of gasoline into the tank of a thursty John Deere???

 

Right on blackbird, exactly what is happening in many parts of SE Asia today.

Rice production has been labour intensive albiet poorly paid, but mechanisation is becoming more affordable allowing the farm boss to dispense with the labour. The unemployed labourer drifts to the city and the squalor of destitution.... and the evils of desperation.

Realistically, if given I am being truely honest with myself I would probably be a slave owner if circumstances were different BUT of course I would be a GOOD master. (this is with tongue firmly in cheek)

 

Yes, Indians sometimes raised white captives as Indians, and Whites sometimes did the same with Indian captives. (Of course, in both cases it was often after the captive individual's own family had been killed). But Natives usually went through an involved ritual with adopted whites that figuratively washed away their whiteness. So in their minds, the adopted persons were no longer white at all.

[ September 14, 2005, 12:30 AM: Message edited by: NiteShift ]