If you weren't Baptist...

[easternstar]

what denomination do you think you'd be a part of? (posting here so our non-Baptist friends can participate)

 

[Marooncat79]

Prob a Vannite

 

[Salty]

I once told a friend of mine I would consider to be Church of Christ - UNTIL I learned of all their doctrine!

 

[Marooncat79]

I once told a friend of mine I would consider to be Church of Christ - UNTIL I learned of all their doctrine!

They definitely deny Christ Alone and Faith Alone and by implication Grace Alone

 

[Van]

Since individual church doctrines differ, even within a denomination, I would attend one where the members govern, rather than a hierarchy.

I would seek to find a church committed to bible study and application.

 

[Charlie24]

I've found that the Pentecostals hold almost identical to the same theology as Baptists.

Of course that varies across the board, but the ones I know believe the same.

It's there focus on the gifts that I see as extreme.

Some are more extreme than others, so less extreme Pentecostals is probably my choice if I had to choose among the established denominations.

 

[Salty]

I've found that the Pentecostals hold almost identical to the same theology as Baptists.

Of course that varies across the board, but the ones I know believe the same.

It's there focus on the gifts that I see as extreme.

Some are more extreme than others, so less extreme Pentecostals is probably my choice if I had to choose among the established denominations.

Exactly - some hold to the belief that you are not truly saved until you do speak in tongues.

 

[Charlie24]

Exactly - some hold to the belief that you are not truly saved until you do speak in tongues.

Yes, those are but a small part of the extremes I mentioned.

There are Pentecostals who are separating themselves from such extremes.

The ones I know here in town are more along the lines of the teachings of Jimmy Swaggart.

If you overlook his great focus on the gifts, he could definitely be considered a Baptist by theology.

 

[Marooncat79]

Yes, those are but a small part of the extremes I mentioned.

There are Pentecostals who are separating themselves from such extremes.

The ones I know here in town are more along the lines of the teachings of Jimmy Swaggart.

If you overlook his great focus on the gifts, he could definitely be considered a Baptist by theology.

Jimmy believed that we could lose out salvation

 

[Charlie24]

Jimmy believed that we could lose out salvation

Yes he does, and makes an excellent case for it!

 

[Charlie24]

Yes he does, and makes an excellent case for it!

The first point he makes is that OSAS was born from Calvinism, which thing he despises.

 

[th1bill]

what denomination do you think you'd be a part of? (posting here so our non-Baptist friends can participate)

I attend a Baptist Church, but I am not a Baptist, in any form. I am a
Christ following Christian. I worship with a Baptist Family of a little over 300 because the Baptists and some Pentecostals follow Bible Doctrine and do not form any doctrine on anything less than the whole light of scripture.

There are exceptions to the statement above, but I do not worship with them.

 

[Marooncat79]

Yes he does, and makes an excellent case for it!

Did jimmy lose his when he ainned?

 

[Charlie24]

Did jimmy lose his when he ainned?

Did David the man after God's own heart lose his?

Faith is the order of the believers life.

He never lost that faith, as David and the rest of us, we all fall short in different ways.

 

[easternstar]

They definitely deny Christ Alone and Faith Alone and by implication Grace Alone

Could you further explain what you mean?

 

[easternstar]

Jimmy believed that we could lose out salvation

And so do Free-will Baptists, although they wouldn't term it like that. They'd say we can forfeit our salvation,or willingly give it up.

 

[Ascetic X]

And so do Free-will Baptists, although they wouldn't term it like that. They'd say we can forfeit our salvation,or willingly give it up.

I always thought that salvation was a new birth. Since no matter how I behave, I will always be the son of my earthly father, it seems like the same principle holds true for remaining a son of my Heavenly Father.

What confuses me is how there are cults, disgraced pastors, and abusive churches that teach the salvation of new birth via “confess Jesus as Lord and believe God raised Him from the dead” — but are seen to be diabolical, deceptive disasters.

So in my self-examination spiritually, I struggle to assure myself that my sincere response to the gospel as a teenager got the salvation job done, even though I spent decades later in sinful backsliding and hedonistic fleshly indulgence.

Rather than worrying that I might have lost my salvation, I seek confidence that my new birth as a teenager was genuine. It certainly seemed sincere for the first few years at least. But the headline of salvation gradually slipped into being just a footnote. This causes great shame and dismay in my soul.

Even my rather successful marriage of 21 years to a virtuous, godly Christian woman is not enough to dispel my doubts sufficiently, though it does help a bit. During our marriage, I never worried about my spiritual state, but when she died, I suddenly, in the midst of bleak grieving, became a million times more introspective and cynical about my salvation.

I don’t want to be someone who, on judgment day, Jesus declares, “I never knew you. Depart from me, you worker of iniquity.”