Impeachment

[Bro. James Reed]

He lied to the American people and to the Congress about the need to invade Iraq. I call that a high crime.

You may call it a crime, but it isn't. Unless he did so under oath, then he didn't commit a crime.

I don't know whether Bush intentionally lied or whether he was misled by the faulty intelligence, but it is certainly his failure that is the reason we are still in Iraq. The jobs our troops set out to do, topple Saddam, destroy WMDs, and set up a Democratic government, have all been accomplished. Bring our boys home and let the Iraqis sort out the rest. We can not be there forever holding up their government for them. They have to decide to take hold of what the U.S. has given them.

Bring 'em home, Mr. President!

 

[Martin]

Should President Bush and or Vice president Chaney be impeached for crimes against the constitution? What are your views?

==Like you, I am a conservative. I even vote for George W Bush twice. However I am very disturbed by many of his policies. Should he be impeached? Not at this point in the game. It's just too late. I say let the clock run down and just pray we don't get stuck with Hillary. Besides I don't believe Bush is guilty of "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors" (Article II, Section 4). Is Bush a poor president? Yes, maybe one of the worst. However that is not a reason to impeach him (mainly at this late stage).

For me, I am just looking for someone to support. I have thought about Ron Paul, Huckabee, and Brownback. However I am just not 100% sold on any of them. I wish Alan Keyes would get back in the race. Truthfully I will probably support Newt when/if he throws his hat into the ring.

 

[Martin]

He lied to the American people and to the Congress about the need to invade Iraq. I call that a high crime.

==I have seen no evidence that Bush lied (told a willfull untruth). In fact, I think those who claim he lied are giving him too much credit. I think Bush let's other people make the decisions while he just approves/disapproves them. So if we are going to look for a liar I think we have to look lower down the chain than Bush.

 

[JustChristian]

This has been gone through a thousand times.

No one has ever proved he lied.

You won't either, but you're welcome to try.

Actually, I'd prefer that the House of Representatives examine the matter.

 

[just-want-peace]

Actually, I'd prefer that the House of Representatives examine the matter.

Translation from "lib-speak"

I know the house won't let the facts obscure their goal, so we'll can Bush on some technicality.

 

[JustChristian]

Translation from "lib-speak"

I see that you don't believe in our system of government. What system would you prefer?

 

[Pastor Larry]

Actually, I'd prefer that the House of Representatives examine the matter.

They did and agreed with Bush, 296-133.

 

[DQuixote]

There isn't enough time. I doubt that it would succeed. Congress, with its 14% credibility rating, needs to be doing other things, like making sure 22,000 American veterans labeled as having "personality disorders", who are denied military benefits and are told they owe the U.S. money, get their benefits reinstated and their "debt" erased; evicting illegals and walling off the border with Mexico. Cancel the interstate highway program from Mexico City to Kansas City and on to Toronto. That's just a couple of items that need to be addressed, and soon.

 

[saturneptune]

Forget the idea of impeachment. There is not enough time to prove crimes, and I doubt there is any. Misleading the American people as to your true colors is not a crime. Learn from the disaster of the Bush administration, and elect someone in 08 that truly cares for the American people.

 

[carpro]

Actually, I'd prefer that the House of Representatives examine the matter.

They have. Repeatedly.

No dice.

 

[hillclimber1]

Actually, I'd prefer that the House of Representatives examine the matter.

They are in constant vigilance over "Get GW any way we can" but nothing but rhetoric ever comes out.

And again you forget that the whole free world, and our own liberal congressional leaders agreed to the invasion.

 

[hillclimber1]

I see that you don't believe in our system of government. What system would you prefer?

A constitutional Republic.

 

[just-want-peace]

What system would you prefer?

I'd settle for a Congress that does its constitutional duty and quits trying to resurrect the Salem Witch Hunts.

Or, as was said, a Constitutional Republic; in practice that is, not just a facade like we now have.

Even with all its problems, I think we still have the best in the world, but unless some common horse sense is found lurking in the hallowed halls of the congressional closets, we won't have the best much longer.

 

[bobbyd]

Bottom line is that neither Bush nor Cheney has committed an impeachable offense.

Most democrats in Congress know it, whether the hotheads do or not.

I concur...

 

[JustChristian]

It seems that it is the other way round. It is you that have been confused.

As for me, I haven't lost any rights at all. None.

Not unless you count Habeus Corpus a right. I do. Anybody can be held without being charged with a crime and without access to an attorney. This comes from the so-called "Patriot Act." U.S. citizens in the U.S. can be treated the same as prisioners in Guantanamo. Read the law.

 

[carpro]

Not unless you count Habeus Corpus a right. I do. ...This comes from the so-called "Patriot Act."

So you want to impeach Congress in it's entirety for passing the Patriot Act?

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

Carville and co swore that the next GOP president would face impeachment for what the GOP did to Clinton. Lo and behold......

At any rate, I fail to see any high crimes or misdemeanors (That silly Constitution getting in the way again) :tonofbricks:

You haven't seen any high crimes and misdemeanors?

 

[Baptist in Richmond]

This has been gone through a thousand times.

No one has ever proved he lied.

You won't either, but you're welcome to try.

Again, what was the reason why we invaded Iraq?

 

[JustChristian]

So you want to impeach Congress in it's entirety for passing the Patriot Act?

Your statement was that you haven't lost any rights. You have as I demonstrated.

 

[JustChristian]

They are in constant vigilance over "Get GW any way we can" but nothing but rhetoric ever comes out.

And again you forget that the whole free world, and our own liberal congressional leaders agreed to the invasion.

The Patriot Act is 342 pages long and it was passed without much discussion on Oct. 24, 2001 less than 6 weeks after 9/11. Doesn't this raise this question in your mind:

How did such a complicated piece of legislation get written in such a short period of time?

The Project for a New American Century, a radical rightist think tank, stated in writing that their objective of invading Iraq probably wouldn't be supported by the American people without a dramatic event like Pearl Harbor. What was 9/11?