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The text below shows the danger of the common creationist practice of quote mining. Some of the links may no longer be current as they were from the Internet of four years ago:
1. Original Version? (Grandparent)
>>>>>In the Proceedings of the Symposium on Radiocarbon
Variations and Absolute Chronology held at Uppsala
in 1969, T. Säve-Söderbergh and I. U. Olsson introduce
their report with these words:
"C-14 dating was being discussed at a symposium on the
prehistory of the Nile Valley. A famous American
colleague, Professor Brew, briefly summarized a common
attitude among archaeologists towards it, as
follows: If a C-14 date supports our theories, we put
it in the main text. If it does not entirely contradict
them, we put it in a footnote. And if it is
completely out of date we just drop it. Few
archaeologists who have concerned themselves with
absolute chronology are innocent of having
sometimes applied this method. . ."(11)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
The above version is from:
http://lide.pruvodce.cz/rix/ce/tc14.htm
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2. Intermediate Version (daughter). This version omits
the connection to Egyptian history.
>>>>>Even more astonishing is this cynical statement made
at a symposium of Nobel Prize winners in Uppsala, Sweden,
in 1969: If a C14 date supports our theories, we put it in
the main text. If it does not entirely contradict them, we
put it in a footnote. And if it is completely 'out of
date,' we just drop it (Pensee , Winter 1973, p.44).<<<<<<
The above version is from:
http://www.rae.org/ch04tud.html
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3. Most Recent Version: (grand-daughter). Since the link
to Egypt was lost in the previous quote, the web site using
the quote below incorrectly guessed that evolution was
involved.
"If a C-14 date supports our [evolutionary] theories,
we put it in the main text. If it does not entirely
contradict them, we put it in a footnote. And if it is
completely `out of date,' we just drop it."
—*Pensee,3(1):44.
The above version is from:
http://pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/06dat5.htm
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The Perils of Copying - A Monk's Story
A new monk arrives at the monastery. He is assigned to help the other monks in copying the old texts by hand. He notices, however, that they are copying copies, not the original books. So, the new monk goes to the head monk to ask him about this. He points out that if there was an error introduced in the intermediate copies, that error would be continued in succeeding copies. The head monk says "We have been copying from the copies for centuries, but you make a good point, my son." So, he goes down into the cellar with one of the copies to check it against the original. Hours later, nobody has seen him. So, one of the monks goes downstairs to look for him. He hears a sobbing coming from the back of the cellar, and finds the old monk leaning over one of the original books crying. He asks what's wrong. "The word is celebrate," says the old monk.
1. Original Version? (Grandparent)
>>>>>In the Proceedings of the Symposium on Radiocarbon
Variations and Absolute Chronology held at Uppsala
in 1969, T. Säve-Söderbergh and I. U. Olsson introduce
their report with these words:
"C-14 dating was being discussed at a symposium on the
prehistory of the Nile Valley. A famous American
colleague, Professor Brew, briefly summarized a common
attitude among archaeologists towards it, as
follows: If a C-14 date supports our theories, we put
it in the main text. If it does not entirely contradict
them, we put it in a footnote. And if it is
completely out of date we just drop it. Few
archaeologists who have concerned themselves with
absolute chronology are innocent of having
sometimes applied this method. . ."(11)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
The above version is from:
http://lide.pruvodce.cz/rix/ce/tc14.htm
-----------------------------------------------------
2. Intermediate Version (daughter). This version omits
the connection to Egyptian history.
>>>>>Even more astonishing is this cynical statement made
at a symposium of Nobel Prize winners in Uppsala, Sweden,
in 1969: If a C14 date supports our theories, we put it in
the main text. If it does not entirely contradict them, we
put it in a footnote. And if it is completely 'out of
date,' we just drop it (Pensee , Winter 1973, p.44).<<<<<<
The above version is from:
http://www.rae.org/ch04tud.html
----------------------------------------------------------
3. Most Recent Version: (grand-daughter). Since the link
to Egypt was lost in the previous quote, the web site using
the quote below incorrectly guessed that evolution was
involved.
"If a C-14 date supports our [evolutionary] theories,
we put it in the main text. If it does not entirely
contradict them, we put it in a footnote. And if it is
completely `out of date,' we just drop it."
—*Pensee,3(1):44.
The above version is from:
http://pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/06dat5.htm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Perils of Copying - A Monk's Story
A new monk arrives at the monastery. He is assigned to help the other monks in copying the old texts by hand. He notices, however, that they are copying copies, not the original books. So, the new monk goes to the head monk to ask him about this. He points out that if there was an error introduced in the intermediate copies, that error would be continued in succeeding copies. The head monk says "We have been copying from the copies for centuries, but you make a good point, my son." So, he goes down into the cellar with one of the copies to check it against the original. Hours later, nobody has seen him. So, one of the monks goes downstairs to look for him. He hears a sobbing coming from the back of the cellar, and finds the old monk leaning over one of the original books crying. He asks what's wrong. "The word is celebrate," says the old monk.
