Imputed Righteousness is False Doctrine

[Van]

Time and again, differing posters make or seem to make this claim, we, those saved, became righteous because God imputed or declared or credited as as righteous.

I believe this view is absolutely bogus.

Let us consider this view from scripture.

Romans 4:6 NASB
just as David also speaks of the blessing of the person to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:

Here many apparently believe this verse say God causes a person to be righteous by crediting or imputing or declaring the person righteous.
But contextually, since the previous verse says God credits a person's faith as righteous, the same idea is probably in view. In other words blessings upon the person whose faith God credits as righteousness.

Philippians 3:9 says that if we are found spiritually "in Him," but we, not having a righteousness of our own derived from the Law, but having a righteousness that is through Jesus Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of credited faith. Thus we are made righteous, not by imputation or being credited as being righteous, but by the washing of regeneration, the circumcision of Christ.

Summary, If God decides to credit our faith as righteousness to us, that does not make us righteous, but based on crediting our faith as righteousness, God then transfers us spiritually into Christ where we undergo the washing of regeneration which makes us righteous.

Last point, we become the righteousness of God only when we are "in Him."

No opposing argument will be made that we have the righteousness of God before we are spiritually transferred into Christ. NONE, ZIP NADA

 

[Van]

2 Corinthians 5:21 proves imputed righteousness is malarkey, as we are made the righteousness of God only when we are transferred into Christ spiritually. Thus we undergo the washing of regeneration to become the righteousness of God.


He treated Him who knew no sin as sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Christ had to suffer and die to become the means of reconciliation for the whole of humanity, the just for the unjust. Without the washing of regeneration, the circumcision of Christ, after being transferred into Christ, you would still be in your sins!

 

[KenH]

A hymn written by John Berridge. (in long meter)

Romans 8:7 The carnal mind is enmity against God.

"Imputed Righteousness is Strange"

1. Imputed righteousness is strange,
Nor will with human fancies range;
We guess the lurking motive well,
And Paul the hateful truth shall tell.

2. The lofty heart can not submit
To cast itself at Jesus’ feet;
It scorns in borrowed robes to shine,
Though weaved with righteousness divine.

3. Proud nature cries, with loathing eyes,
“This imputation I despise;”
And from it she will pertly start,
Till grace has broken down her heart.

4. O give me, Lord, Thy righteousness,
To be my peace and wedding dress:
My sores it heals, my rags it hides,
And makes me dutiful besides.

 

[JesusFan]

2 Corinthians 5:21 proves imputed righteousness is malarkey, as we are made the righteousness of God only when we are transferred into Christ spiritually. Thus we undergo the washing of regeneration to become the righteousness of God.


He treated Him who knew no sin as sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Christ had to suffer and die to become the means of reconciliation for the whole of humanity, the just for the unjust. Without the washing of regeneration, the circumcision of Christ, after being transferred into Christ, you would still be in your sins!

Only 2 choices on this issue, either be a Baptist and hold to Imputed righteousness, or be a Cathoic, and go with infused righteousness

 

[kyredneck]

Only 2 choices on this issue, either be a Baptist and hold to Imputed righteousness, or be a Cathoic, and go with infused righteousness

21​	And Jehovah God made for Adam and for his wife coats of skins, and clothed them. Gen 3

 

[canadyjd]

Is 60:10 “…. He clothed me with robes of righteousness…”

Peace to you

 

[canadyjd]

Another Vanology rewrite of scripture

Keep trying @Van, you have almost convinced to whole world to reject the doctrines of grace. Just a few more threads should do it.

Peace to you

 

[Van]

Only 2 choices on this issue, either be a Baptist and hold to Imputed righteousness, or be a Cathoic, and go with infused righteousness

Gibberish.

2 Corinthians 5:21 proves imputed righteousness is malarkey, as we are made the righteousness of God only when we are transferred into Christ spiritually. Thus we undergo the washing of regeneration to become the righteousness of God.

He treated Him who knew no sin as sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

Christ had to suffer and die to become the means of reconciliation for the whole of humanity, the just for the unjust. Without the washing of regeneration, the circumcision of Christ, after being transferred into Christ, you would still be in your sins!

 

[Van]

Another Vanology rewrite of scripture

Keep trying @Van, you have almost convinced to whole world to reject the doctrines of grace. Just a few more threads should do it.

Peace to you

More "against the person" gibberish from those desperate to hide truth under an avalanche of verbiage. No opposing argument will be made that we have the righteousness of God before we are spiritually transferred into Christ. NONE, ZIP NADA

 

[Van]

Isaiah 61:10 NASB
I will rejoice greatly in the LORD,
My soul will be joyful in my God;
For He has clothed me with garments of salvation,
He has wrapped me with a robe of righteousness,
As a groom puts on a turban,
And as a bride adorns herself with her jewels.

Once again we see at least the implication the Old Covenant "robe of righteousness" means Christ did not need to suffer and die.

Did you see where any Calvinist explained why Christ died if God made us "the righteousness of God" under the Old Covenant?

 

[KenH]

Romans 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works.

 

[Ben1445]

2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

If this does not describe imputing, would you please explain why it is not, both in the case of the sin and the righteousness, and your thinking is on the proper name or doctrine it is describing?

 

[Van]

Romans 4:6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works.

Did you see where any Calvinist explained why Christ died if God made us "the righteousness of God" under the Old Covenant?

 

[Van]

2 Corinthians 5:21
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

If this does not describe imputing, would you please explain why it is not, both in the case of the sin and the righteousness, and your thinking is on the proper name or doctrine it is describing?

Explanation. Imputing = declaring or crediting, but being "made the righteousness of God" required Christ's suffering and death, the just for the unjust. Thus we were "made the righteousness of God" by the washing of regeneration, also called the circumcision of Christ. This action occurs only after we have been transferred spiritually into Christ, thus only while "in Him."

No one under the Old Covenant was "made the righteousness of God." None of those chosen for salvation under the Old Covenant went to heaven when they physically died. No one. Not Abraham, David, Job, you name them, none went to heaven as none had been made righreous, they had to wait in Abraham's bosom to be made perfect.

I do not know how to explain it any better. It is the difference between having sin covered, like a fig leaf, and having sin removed, as in a circumcision. Christ shed His blood for us. He did not do it as a whim. Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin.

The very idea Christ went to the cross needlessly is blasphemy.

If you have a followup question, please include why Christ had to die, if we could be imputed with the Righteousness of God!

 

[canadyjd]

Did you see where any Calvinist explained why Christ died if God made us "the righteousness of God" under the Old Covenant?

It’s called prophecy @Van.

Did anyone ever see any free willer explain Romans 9 and explain how God endured vessels of wrath created for destruction to show mercy to vessels created for that purpose?

No. It’s just the same old cowpie day after day. Deflect, ignore, insult and mangle scripture to force God to fit into a secular philosophy of what is fair.

Utter nonsense with the hope of confusion of the truth by repeating the nonsense as often as possible.

Peace to you

 

[Van]

It’s called prophecy @Van.

Did anyone ever see any free willer explain Romans 9 and explain how God endured vessels of wrath created for destruction to show mercy to vessels created for that purpose?

No. It’s just the same old cowpie day after day. Deflect, ignore, insult and mangle scripture to force God to fit into a secular philosophy of what is fair.

Utter nonsense with the hope of confusion of the truth by repeating the nonsense as often as possible.

Peace to you

More Gibberish, more nonsense. Prophecy has NOTHING to do with being made the righteousness of God. Good Grief.

Next, the implication I am a "free willing" but no quote. For the record, again, I am a "limited spiritual ability" guy. But that is too much for any Calvinist to grasp.

Here is the truth Calvinism hides with word salads, spread over their "cowpie."

Christ had to suffer and die to become the means of reconciliation for the whole of humanity, the just for the unjust. Without the washing of regeneration, the circumcision of Christ, after being transferred into Christ, you would still be in your sins!

 

[KenH]

No one under the Old Covenant was "made the righteousness of God."

Yes, they were. Everyone who is saved is imputed with the righteousness of Christ.

David lived before the cross.

Psalm 32:2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity.

Lot lived before the cross.

2 Peter 2:8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds).

None of those chosen for salvation under the Old Covenant went to heaven when they physically died.

Yes, they did. God's elect before the cross were not thrown into some holding cell and kept there for thousands of years. They went to be with Christ immediately, just as God's elect after the cross.

Abraham lived before the Christ.

John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: by Abraham's bosom is meant heaven, a phrase well known to the Jews, by which they commonly expressed the happiness of the future state: of Abraham's happy state they had no doubt; and when they spake of the happiness of another's, they sometimes signified it by going to Abraham.

- excerpt from John Gill's commentary on Luke 16:22

 

[Ben1445]

Explanation. Imputing = declaring or crediting, but being "made the righteousness of God" required Christ's suffering and death, the just for the unjust. Thus we were "made the righteousness of God" by the washing of regeneration, also called the circumcision of Christ. This action occurs only after we have been transferred spiritually into Christ, thus only while "in Him."

No one under the Old Covenant was "made the righteousness of God." None of those chosen for salvation under the Old Covenant went to heaven when they physically died. No one. Not Abraham, David, Job, you name them, none went to heaven as none had been made righreous, they had to wait in Abraham's bosom to be made perfect.

I do not know how to explain it any better. It is the difference between having sin covered, like a fig leaf, and having sin removed, as in a circumcision. Christ shed His blood for us. He did not do it as a whim. Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin.

The very idea Christ went to the cross needlessly is blasphemy.

If you have a followup question, please include why Christ had to die, if we could be imputed with the Righteousness of God!

I don’t follow your logic.
First, where has someone said that they are saved because of the old covenant/law and or old covenant/ patriarchs (since they predate the law)
Second the provided verse says that because Christ died, we can have Christ’s righteousness imputed to us. It doesn’t say without.
Given this perspective, what are you getting at. You appear to be one who fights , as “beating the air.”

 

[KenH]

Did you see where any Calvinist explained why Christ died if God made us "the righteousness of God" under the Old Covenant?

The sins of God's elect had to to be expiated; therefore, the sins of God's elect were imputed to Christ and He paid their sin debt. And He paid the sin debt of the elect even if they had not been born yet nor personally sinned yet. Every time one of God's elect sins today, Christ does not return to earth and die again to paid their sin debt.

God is not bound by time. We fallen human beings are time bound; therefore, we see things as past, present, and future. For Jehovah, everything that will ever take place in our time bound existence has always been a present reality going back into eternity - Jehovah is Eternal.

 

[Ben1445]

The sins of God's elect had to to be expiated; therefore, the sins of God's elect were imputed to Christ and He paid their sin debt. And He paid the sin debt of the elect even if they had not been born yet nor personally sinned yet. Every time one of God's elect sins today, Christ does not return to earth and die again to paid their sin debt.

God is not bound by time. We fallen human beings are time bound; therefore, we see things as past, present, and future. For Jehovah, everything that will ever take place in our time bound existence has always been a present reality going back into eternity - Jehovah is Eternal.

Hebrews 10:10
By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.